To think that women going on holiday to places like Tunisia should be warned

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By holidays reps About these men who are waiters / bar staff / animation workers looking to get money from older (or younger) western women by this 'Bezness' culture?

My friend is 40 and met a Tunisian guy who is 24 - he was working in the Tui hotel resort she was holidaying in. He's just asked her to marry him and she's considering moving her two little dds to Tunisia. Cue photos of diamond encrusted gold engagement ring. She has only spent about 3 separate weeks with him!

She will want to believe he's different I guess. But really, what I hear is that these men are sometimes players of a very long game, will keep up the act for 3 years or more to get what they want (a visa, or money / access to wife's possessions so that he can then afford to go back to Tunisia and pay the dowry for his 'real' wife).

I don't think people are aware of just how these people operate. My friend is a vulnerable person. My heart sank when she announced the engagement 🤦🏻‍♀️

Happened to someone I know and he left her when he got to the UK. Cost her thousands.
It’s not just Tunisia and I don’t think women who fall for this will listen!

Sure, I know it isn't just Tunisia. From what I hear, even the families of these men are often in on their trickery and raise them to practice it so they can get better opportunities in life. Makes me mad tbh

Google 'tunisian love rats'. There's a rogues gallery on there.

He's not on the gallery but sadly that probably doesn't prove he's genuine?

Isn't it a two-way street? She gets a young hottie to have sex with and he gets a 'rich' older woman to pay for him.
And why is your friend vulnerable?

I've been on holiday in Tunisia twice and found it fab. People were very helpful and respectful.

If you take an issue with your friend's toy boy, that's another matter.

I thought your post was going to be about general security concerns, but I'm not sure what you expect holiday companies to say about this? After all it's not as if there's any lack of accounts about folk who've been cheated already

Unfortunately you can't always protect folk from the consequences of their own foolishness, and even if you tried they probably wouldn't listen

Isn't it a two-way street? She gets a young hottie to have sex with and he gets a 'rich' older woman to pay for him.

No because he's pretending it's more than that! Clearly as he has proposed!

I’m always stunned at how gullible women are. Men too actually but it’s a similar online scam.

If this were a rich, older man bagging himself a young hottie and becoming a sugar daddy would you still be concerned then?

As pp said she’s tapping a handsome man and is probably deluded but this has happened to men for years...

As sad as this is for your friend. She will, deep down know this is likely a con. Women know this happens. It’s been going on a long time. People who fall for it tell themselves it’s different because they want to believe it. No amount of warning could prevent it in my opinion.

Obviously no one here knows your friend's circumstances, but generally speaking, and assuming no learning difficulties at play, I'd expect a reasonably competent woman of 40 to be able to see through the whole 'diamond' engagement ring, proposal and protestations of eternal love palaver from ten miles off, with no need for warnings from a tour rep.

If this were a rich, older man bagging himself a young hottie and becoming a sugar daddy would you still be concerned then?

Yes, I'd be concerned about the woman! There have been documentaries about the dangers of these 'sugar baby' situations. In fact my cousin in America knows a young woman who was murdered by a man posing as a sugar daddy. But that's another thread.

I’m sorry but if some women in her 40s with 2 dc is stupid enough to believe a 24 year old hunky waiter wants her that’s on her 🤷🏻‍♀️

They always believe they are different 😂😂

Women don’t need to be warned only the stupid ones, desperate for attention fall for this shit

To be fair people do know without warnings, you can’t save people from their own idiocy sadly.

I think that if women were warned before hand it would put them on their guard. Once they've head all the sweet nothings sense goes out of the window.

Any woman who is considering moving countries with children after spending 3 weeks with a man wont listen.

I have known several of these women and they dont listen.

It's in the papers, on TV and spoke about quite often.

Holiday companies arent going to get involved in shit like this.

If you are stupid enough to uproot your kids at all, to any country after 3 weeks, no polite warning is going to help.

Well a woman in her 40s should have common sense, common sense alone should make ones his a bad one sense tingle tbh.

You can’t warn stupid about stuff I’m afraid

Have you spoken to her? Or is that a stupid question?
I agree with you. How does she think taking her children to live in Tunisia will benefit them? Is the children’s father about?
She wants her head testing.

I really don't think it's the holiday company's job to 'warn' women not to be daft idiots.

Sadly this is very common and not just in Tunisia. As said above women who are going to do this won’t listen. ‘He is different’. Sadly if they get married and he gets to the U.K. he will be off faster than you can say visa. Poor girls being dragged to a third world country, nothing good will happen to them

Do genuine men exist there who don't have an agenda?

Well, of course.

The majority, I would think.

None of the reps business. If people are dim enough to be flattered and fall for this kinda crap, that’s their lookout. The reps aren’t there to “police” what adult tourists get up to (within reason, obviously).
Your friend, like countless others, is an idiot. She’s not the first and she won’t be the last, but that isn’t the reps responsibility.
Unless it really is love of course?

Honestly, if people are daft enough to fall for it, despite endless stories the media, they really shouldn’t be allowed to go abroad on their own. And if they are that daft, no amount of warnings from the tour reps would make any difference. I feel very sorry for your friend’s DC if she’s seriously thinking about uprooting them and taking them to Tunisia.