Rude parents, entitled kids

[LuckyAmy1986]

Just back from a day out at a local attraction where kids can trick or treat at various doors round the place. Our kids were waiting patiently and two little kids came and pushed in front of them. Parents said nothing. And many, many kids didn’t say thank you when given sweets, the parents didn’t encourage them to when they didn't either.
My elderly grandparents came to see me recently. We stepped off the path into the road for a lady with a double buggy, no thank you, nothing. This happens frequently. I put them on the (very busy) bus home. It was full of teenagers coming home from school. Not one of them offered either of my GPS a seat. I’m so sick of this kind of shit and might lose my rag at someone soon!
If you are one of those parents who doesn’t make their children wait in line or say thank you can you fucking sort yourself out please, we don’t need more entitled twats in the world.

AIBU?

The teaching of manners should start in the home but it needs to be carried on by schools. If courtesy is made an expectation rather than seemingly being an option it will become the norm.

I went to a school where every girl said good morning/afternoon to a teacher as they met for the first time that day. If another teacher, visiting parent, governor or guest walked into the classroom we stood and said good morning Mr/s Smith. We greeted our subject teachers in the same way at the start of every lesson. We sat only when we got the nod from our teacher or visitor. If we walked through the door without holding it open for the person behind we were called back and an apology was expected.

Rarely was an apology needed though because these small acts of courtesy weren't considered to be too much to ask. They were just normal, standard basic good manners which, I believe, set us up for life.

@joyfullittlehippo Yes bad manners. But I thought the tube did not have any bins there?

Thanks, I was wrong then.

About 35 years back when my Nan used to get on the bus with my dm and teenagers rushed on, my Nan would grab them by the collar and tell them to have so manners.
Don't think you'd get away with that now.
But,
Teenagers, dc and adults have and will probably always be rude and thoughtless.

Parents have to drum into kids to think about how other people feel because for most our natural state is self absorbed. My mother was amazing at this. She was always banging on about it but was so right. Remember her having a conversation with a lady in the village and after the lady went mum saying to us how the woman had talked non stop about herself and not asked one question so she had appalling manners.

Held a birthday treat for 11 year olds recently. Two had tantrums over nothing. Not for one second had it occurred to them how the birthday child or us laying on the treat might feel. Me me me. We were horrified tbh.

Joyful hippo - i would have said something to the business man. No excuse leaving litter anywhere. I cant even stand fag buts being dropped.

I find older people much more likely to be rude, tbh. Younger people are falling over themselves to be polite usually.

Politeness is a given in my house, but the important thing IMO is to teach my DDs when not to be polite.

I think it is important to model good manners despite others not doing so.

I completely agree. We went to the theatre yesterday, for a production aimed at children. I was shocked at how many parents allowed their children to shout through it, jump up and down, stand on chairs, all while they sat staring at their phones. This was in a theatre where the seats are steeply banked with the stage below, there was no need to stand up, even the smallest child would have had a good view. There was a family behind us who let their two daughters very loudly repeat everything said on stage, to the point that it made it impossible to follow what was happening. You'd think they'd never left their living room. The mum and grandma were actively encouraging them, laughing about how funny they were being. They weren't being funny. They ruined the show for everyone around them and didn't even stop when they were told by an older man next to them to keep the girls quiet or leave. Very disrespectful.

I’ve found it’s not just other members of the public who are like this, it’s also staff serving in shops/ customer service people on the phone etc who are PAID to be polite and yet still come across rude.
Went to my local bakery the other day, high street shops are struggling and I love the cakes from the bakery, took the kids there as a half term treat. Handed over the money to the cashier and even though I said ‘thanks’ (considering it was me giving her my money!) there was absolutely nothing from her, she handed back my change and again I said thanks but still nothing from her no ‘your welcome’ or even a thanks back no smile nothing. Shame cos it makes me not want to go in there again.

A lot of people do use the word 'entitled' on Mumsnet. It annoys me because most of them use it wrongly. The queue jumpers et al are not actually 'entitled'. Rather they see themselves as entitled (to do whatever they want).