Rude parents, entitled kids

[LuckyAmy1986]

Just back from a day out at a local attraction where kids can trick or treat at various doors round the place. Our kids were waiting patiently and two little kids came and pushed in front of them. Parents said nothing. And many, many kids didn’t say thank you when given sweets, the parents didn’t encourage them to when they didn't either.
My elderly grandparents came to see me recently. We stepped off the path into the road for a lady with a double buggy, no thank you, nothing. This happens frequently. I put them on the (very busy) bus home. It was full of teenagers coming home from school. Not one of them offered either of my GPS a seat. I’m so sick of this kind of shit and might lose my rag at someone soon!
If you are one of those parents who doesn’t make their children wait in line or say thank you can you fucking sort yourself out please, we don’t need more entitled twats in the world.

AIBU?

Working in a secondary school the kids ask “miss I need a pencil”, to which I reply (whilst holding a pencil) “sorry, I don’t have a pencil. I do have a pencil-please that you may borrow”. Queue the momentary look of confusion while they process what I’ve said... then they’ll ask for a pencil please.

The same as men in top of the range cars pushing in.

Yes, it's exactly like this! Those people just don't care. My slightly volatile sister was thinking her horn and flipping off some man in a big 4 x 4 recently (not sensible of her, I know) and apparently he didn't bat an eyelid. Even if you pick up on people's rudeness they sometimes don't care.

But, I think some people are just rude because that's what they see other people do. Like a negative pay it forward. Those people might actually think twice if you politely mention things.

I have noticed that if I am really courteous to previously slightly ignorant people, they will often respond quite well to it.

*honking

Should point out that the 4x4 driver had just done something rude and dangerous to my sister. Not the best reaction from her, but apparently he was pretty pleased with himself all the same!

m0therofdragons: I'm regularly told I'm so lucky my dc are polite.

But luck has nothing to do with it - it's your hard work and repetition that put it there!

missyB1 Oh and don't get me started on parents who insist their kids "shouldn't be made" to say please, thank you or sorry.

WTF? Why on earth would you teach your children this??? What horrors they'll end up being.

YADNBU

The other week I had a mum I barely know accost me in our local shop to ask if her very, very beginner 10 year old DD can have a ride on my DD’s pony.

DD’s pony is generally quite lovely but is not a beginners pony by any stretch of the imagination so I politely said no, explained why and suggested a fab local riding school.

The mum flipped, called me selfish and the kid had a tantrum. I was .

She messaged me twice since - once to tell me she couldn’t believe I could be so selfish then again to tell me her daughter hadn’t stopped crying since and she hoped I was happy with myself

I replied to the last one to say I was very happy that her daughter’s riding accident wouldn’t be on my conscience

She replied ‘fuck off. Blocked’

I am still somewhat bemused by the whole thing

I always think of THIS

@Beesandcheese are you one of the parents we’re talking about?

Ugh. YADNBU.

I even say please and thank you to Siri and Alexa

@Daytimetellysucks

Did this person crap on about "sharing"

It's always the entitled fuckers who talk about sharing these days.

I was on the bus today and a man in a wheelchair was refused entry as there were 2 pushchairs on already. The lady with one of the chairs was shouting at the drive that there was no room.

When an elderly lady said she should be ashamed as she could have moved (had a friend with her and both sat down in pull down seats) she was sworn at whole the bus driver did nothing.

Honestly never been so ashamed of people. Can bet her child won’t be taught to stand on the bus either.

Thank goodness it's not just me @bakesalesally! I've seen Terminator. I'm keeping the machines sweet

@TricklBOO

daytimetelly

Sweet jesus.

tootired

What I hate is that the drivers do absolutely nothing. So do the passengers. But, the reason nobody wants to intervene is probably because when they do they end up being the target of the CF's rage. The only way to sort the worst ones out is to be as bad as them really and then we've totally failed.

I watched a young teen the other day as she noticed an elderly lady struggle with the door and step up to a cafe, the teen went over, said "Can I help you?" pushed open the door and took the lady's bag inside for her. There are plenty of good children/teens and young people out there, they probably outnumber the entitled ones but they just don't stand out as much in our memories.

Ds (6) has asd & learning difficulties he doesn't even understand what please, thank you, sorry means and wouldn't know when it was appropriate to say it but I still make him say it or speak on his behalf.

No bloody need for people to be so rude!

DD: can I have another one?
ME: another one what?
DD: another one please

DS: I'm still hungry, I want some more
ME: that's interesting
DS: please can I have some more?

DD: can I have some more juice please? [she knows how to say please when it suits her]
ME: here you go
DD: [silence]
ME: you're welcome
DD: thank you

Every. Single. Time.

The message is getting through, and they ALWAYS say please and thank you with strangers.

I find a nice passive aggressive "Please don't thank me, I'd hate you to hurt yourself" works well. Today at my bus stop four people all pulled back from the door to let an elderly Lady on first, the smile of surprise and pleasure on her face was lovely but a sad sign that good manners are dying out

I think it is sad when children are rude and their parents do not correct them. We get complimented when foster child always says please, thank you, you are welcome or can I leave the table please. We just accept it is normal good manners and a child will go further with them than without them.

@AgathaTheAardvark I probably will one day! I wish I had politely said something today tbh but I just wanted an easy day out. Then again I’m pissed off now anyway

@bloodywhitecat you’re probably right. I Hope so anyway! Think
I was just a bit done with it all today because the place was packed and I saw so many incidents at once.

Sometimes I think that 'please' and 'thank you' are viewed as 'losing' in any transaction whether it be giving way on a narrow pavement or a point of sale.

As Kingsman said, "manners maketh man", but sadly it's not been as influential a might hope.

It isn't universal fortunately. I am a volunteer coach for a children's sports club and I would say that 90% of the children that I coach are well behaved most of the time and the majority of the parents fully support our approach to behaviour. But we do have a few who really test our patience, and their children can be quite hard work too.

As well as teaching my children to move out of the way, hold doors open etc i also taught them to say loudly YOURE WELCOME very passively aggressively when not thanked.