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Ibleedibreedibreaatfeed · 21/10/2019 19:12

Mainly the brand changing its packaging to be trans friendly. Are we slowly eradicating womenhood? Along with " pregnant person". It feels such a slippery slope.

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Aridane · 22/10/2019 16:14

I would put money on not a single person on this thread having even noticed the symbol before now

I hadn’t

I google image searched and didn’t know what was being referred to as couldn’t see anything in the packaging.

It wasn’t until a poster explained what the symbol was and another posted an image of the wrapper that I actually knew!

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SuperMeerkat · 22/10/2019 16:21

So will they’ve changing their them tune on the TV ‘I’m your Venus etc...’

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SuperMeerkat · 22/10/2019 16:22

So will they be changing their theme tune on the TV ‘I’m your Venus etc...’

please ignore previous illiterate post!

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BeyondBreakingPoint · 22/10/2019 16:28

So the similarity between the Venus symbol and the ancient Egyptian hieroglyph "ankh" (meaning life) is just a coincidence, is it? And the romans saying ladies like romance 5000 years later is evidence that any use of the Venus symbol to mean women has negative connotations?

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BeyondBreakingPoint · 22/10/2019 16:30

See also the cross on a chain worn is Christianity, of course...

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SuperMeerkat · 22/10/2019 16:30

Having the design upsets some people. Not having the design doesn't upset anyone

@shartgoblin This isn’t true, it upsets me. I’m a female who has periods yet one complaint from a trans man (aka a woman posing as a man) and they take notice. Not right.

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BeyondBreakingPoint · 22/10/2019 16:30

*in Christianity

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/10/2019 16:32

Supposed to be a mirror isnt it (mars is a spear)? I had noticed the sign before but only because I'm a designer and like to look at packaging (and the patterns used on things like this)

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M3lon · 22/10/2019 16:53

super why are you so attached to a misogynistic symbol, why are you sad to see it go?

Personally I'd be waving off all that 'men are from mars, women from venus' BS with gleeful abandon and a cheery 'Hope the door doesn't hit you on the way out!'

One of my main beefs with transactivism (not with trans people!) is the reinforcement of gender stereotypes. If they are joining the feminists to wave goodbye to some then yipee! We are on the same side for once!

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ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 22/10/2019 16:53

Does the Christian cross really come from the same place? I always thought it was just a cross, but I'm not a Christian.

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ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 22/10/2019 16:56

What's all this nonsense about misogyny?

The symbol for female is not misogynistic. Being female is not misogynistic. Making products for females (whether women, hens, mares, whatever) is not misogynistic.

The only misogyny here is from people who seek to deny that the only humans who have periods are women, the female half of humanity.

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M3lon · 22/10/2019 16:58

The christian cross comes from crucifiction surely? I think its the shape it is because of the job it does. I'd be surprised if it was connected to the ankh etc.

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M3lon · 22/10/2019 17:00

You don't think the connection of the symbol to Venus, beauty, love, and of course helplessness (in comparison to the male spear affair) is reinforcing outdated stereotypes of femininity?

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M3lon · 22/10/2019 17:04

I don't want my pads in pink. I don't want them covered in glitter. I don't want them covered in hearts, rainbows, or unicorns. I definitely don't want them scented. I also don't want them covered with a symbol associated with all things pink and glittery - oh and the Roman godess of love.

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Pandainmyporridge · 22/10/2019 17:07

I always saw those as being scientific/medical symbols - I've never seen them as linked to stereotypes, just to denoting male and female.

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ControversialFerret · 22/10/2019 17:09

The issue isn't the symbol - the issue is the argument being made; which is that a symbol representing women needs to be removed from a product that only women use. And the reason for the request is because it's a reminder that biological reality that cannot be overcome by identity - an unfortunate truth which does not align to the current groupthink that sex and gender are the same thing.

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Sagradafamiliar · 22/10/2019 17:23

Being female is offensive now, actually being a female. Fucking joke. Oh well, another thing to boycott.

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Deathgrip · 22/10/2019 18:08

YA also BU to be annoyed at a business making things easier for people who might be affected by it, in a way which doesn't directly affect you at all. Does your vagina only accept sanitary products which feature Venus symbols on? If not, I can only assume this will make precisely zero difference to your life and therefore isn't worth getting angry about.

If it means nothing, why does it need to be removed? Clearly it means something.

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flirtygirl · 22/10/2019 18:13

The Christian cross isn't actually Christian but a pagan symbol adopted by the church. Not linked to the crucifixion as Jesus was on a torture stake which was a straight piece of wood with his name on it. Arms were nailed above his head. Lots of historical references to show this are available to research.

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BeyondBreakingPoint · 22/10/2019 18:34

I didn't mean the cross alone, but specifically that it is worn around the neck - the necklace itself plus the cross creates an approximation of the Venus symbol (or an ankh)

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SchadenfiendeUnmortified · 23/10/2019 17:35

Women have been telling Always we don't want their shitty scented pads for years. We've been ignored. But one trans person complains and they jump to attention?

Maybe we need a TW to write to them and complain that their crappy scented product hives "her" an itchy dick?

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Aridane · 23/10/2019 18:47

The Christian cross isn't actually Christian but a pagan symbol adopted by the church. Not linked to the crucifixion as Jesus was on a torture stake which was a straight piece of wood with his name on it. Arms were nailed above his head. Lots of historical references to show this are available to research

WTAF?!? Jesus wasn't crucified o a cross?

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Pandainmyporridge · 23/10/2019 21:08

I thought it was only Jehovah's witnesses who believe that stuff about the stake-not-cross.

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Nat6999 · 23/10/2019 21:25

Since all the new terminology & political correctness started, it is beginning to feel as if the female gender is going to be eliminated. We are no longer going to be allowed to be female women, we will be people with a cervix & vagina, how much longer will the feminine hygiene aisle be in our supermarkets?

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