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To think that Scottish Independence is now inevitable and who can blame them, so good luck Scotland!

274 replies

GoodLuckWeNeedIt · 18/10/2019 13:14

That’s it really. Unfortunately, I think this Brexit deal will probably go through tomorrow. But even if there was a referendum, people will probably vote for whatever deal going because everyone is demented with Brexit fatigue. And even if we did remain following another referendum, there would be so much backlash and unpleasantness from certain elements of the far right it doesn’t bear thinking about.

It’s extemely depressing. I’m in a Remain London Borough. Never really met a Brexiteer, but what can you do?

I can’t imagine how livid the Scottish people must feel though. Their referendum was fairly marginal, but I think if they’d seen this coming the Scottish independence vote would have won through.

Anyway, NS is definitely gearing up for another Scottish referendum and who could blame her? At least Scotland have the option of getting out of this nightmare. I’m sure they’ll be independent within a year or so and good for them. I wish them all the best.

AIBU to think the legacy of Brexit will be Scottish Independence and the end of the UK as we know it?

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derxa · 18/10/2019 13:19

I'm Scottish and think independence is idiocy.

Clangus00 · 18/10/2019 13:22

Can’t come quick enough!

RasberryRoyale · 18/10/2019 13:22

I’m Scottish and think independence is ridiculous.

Bloke23 · 18/10/2019 13:23

If they left the union and decided to join the EU, could they afford it?

hazeljo · 18/10/2019 13:24

I'm Scottish and YADNBU. A lot of people I know who voted against independence previously are now for it.

saj90 · 18/10/2019 13:25

While I'm not sure how Scottish Independence would go, i'm all for it after Brexit.

HirplesWithHaggis · 18/10/2019 13:26

Thank you for your good wishes, makes a change from the "Fuck off Scotland" meme floating around this week. Grin

femidom12 · 18/10/2019 13:26

Yep give them their independence, goodbye and good riddance frankly...

Brooklynninenineninetynine · 18/10/2019 13:26

I lived in Scotland for a long time. During the run up to the independence referendum it was very clear to me that the next referendum would be for Brexit and that England would want it and Scotland wouldn't. I didn't think there'd be a second referendum in Scotland but I'm really glad there will be.
Much of the No campaigns argument was about how with independence Scotland would have to reapply to the EU and how they'd be forced to join the euro. Now they are being dragged out against the will of the scottish people.
So I hope you're right and independence comes sooner rather than later

Ijustwanttoretire · 18/10/2019 13:27

I don't get all the talk about Scotland becoming independent then joining the EU - it isn't going to happen - they can't just sign up, so they will be independent and still out of the EU. However I am no expert and there is possibly something I am missing here - if so please tell me (genuinely) as I can't see it happening?

NotMaryWhitehouse · 18/10/2019 13:29

@femidom12 What?! Why so angry with ALL OF SCOTLAND??? 🤣

antisupermum · 18/10/2019 13:30

I voted NO in the last Indy Ref, but I'm a firm YES if I get the opportunity again.

Not necessarily because of Brexit (I voted OUT, incase it matters) but because everyone elected into Westminster are utter buffoons and I can't believe we are being led by them. I do think the Brexit campaign was full of lies that I can admit I fell for (I would change my vote if I could), and I also think the Indy Ref vote was tainted by Westminster propaganda and mud-slinging. We need a clear run at it, without all the...well, politics Grin

NotMaryWhitehouse · 18/10/2019 13:30

@HirplesWithHaggis you spoke too soon, sorry!

GrouchyKiwi · 18/10/2019 13:30

I don't understand the desire to get embroiled in yet another mess trying to extricate ourselves ourselves from the Union. Surely Brexit has shown how difficult and messy it will be?

(That's a No from me, in case that wasn't clear.)

Hesafriendfromwork · 18/10/2019 13:34

Hmm not sure how the figures (financial) stack up for this.

Scotland is unlikely to be able to rejoin the EU though.

derxa · 18/10/2019 13:34

Yep give them their independence, goodbye and good riddance frankly... Cheers! Grin I love you too.

GrouchyKiwi · 18/10/2019 13:35

because everyone elected into Westminster are utter buffoons and I can't believe we are being led by them
Another argument I don't understand. Are you pretending that the Scottish Government is competent?

Politicians everywhere are terrible.

KidLorneRoll · 18/10/2019 13:35

Given the fucking shitshow that is Westminster, who could blame anyone who wants to be as far away from that as possible?

Queenunikitty · 18/10/2019 13:36

I want to know what happens if Scotland becomes independent and you were born in Scotland to Scots parents who still live there but you have lived in England for over 30 years and you want to stay in England? Asking for a friend Wink

Fatshedra · 18/10/2019 13:38

I voted for independence but since the nanny state took over, Named Person scheme which excluded parents, using Gaelic on all the signs WTF blatantly more people speak Polish but we get Gaelic even on police cars, drinks limit, apparently drinking levels have gone up, wind farms in major tourist areas ( tourism is our biggest industry), GRA, and any other woke issue they show off about. Absolutely don't want independence with these lunatics running the asylum.

GoodLuckWeNeedIt · 18/10/2019 13:38

Shame there’s no option for London independence.

I’m sure Scotland will go independent now and good for them. Meanwhile, England will become an increasingly divided society where “The People ” will get stuffed by the increasingly right-wing govt who manipulated them into this for their own agenda of political power games.

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Dinosauratemydaffodils · 18/10/2019 13:40

I was a no last time. This time, I think persuading me to vote yes would be considerably easier for multiple reasons. Yes, it will messy and painful but so will brexit. I want my children to grow up in a country they can be proud of, I don't see this "union" of unequals being that. Despite being born in England to a serving Soldier, every time I return (only lived there for 5 years across my childhood), I'm reminded that I'm not British enough based on my accent because apparently for a lot of people British = English. I've heard my dh get abuse for being Scottish, my MiL get abuse for being from NI...apparently she's single handedly responsible for the delay in Brexit and all the other petty comments which makes you question what's the point. After all, the same thing seems to be demonstrated in Westminister.

Do I rate the SNP as decent politicans, not really but that's a UK wide problem at the minute really. There are some MSPs I respect though across multiple parties.

I don't however see any majority Government allowing a referendum any time soon.

Darkbendis · 18/10/2019 13:43

I really hope so and I am all for it, inside or outside EU!

nancy75 · 18/10/2019 13:44

For the sake of the people of Scotland I hope they have definitive answer on whether joining the EU would be possible for them before they call the vote.
It would be hugely unfair to vote on the basis of getting back in the EU only to be turned away once they were independent.
If Brexit has shown us anything people should be told what will happen if they vote a certain way rather than what might happen. I suppose this would mean agreeing an exit strategy from the Union before they have the vote (can't see that happening)

GhostofFrankGrimes · 18/10/2019 13:44

Fully support it. Brexit has caused this.

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