To think that sensible conservatives will not be able to vote for boris after his recent behaviour?

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Really? After lying and shutting down democracy and his disgusting performance in parliament today. Surely you can’t vote conservative now unless you’re a very small demographic that they are seemingly targeting. Surely they will lose much of their core vote now . Most folk who vote conservative aren’t are decent, law abiding people. Boris Johnson’s behaviour surely offends the majority?

I think sensible people wont want to vote labour or lib dems either. Or in fact any party that has a chance of winning.

Two words: Donald Trump. Look at all the terrible things he said and did. He was still elected.
People shouldn't vote for Johnson, he's a disgrace. But they will.

Looking at social media I'm appalled at the number of people cheering him on.

I'm a Tory and can't stand BJ but I know what our local labour candidate is like, if this was new labour it might be different but I'm not voting for Marxists

"I'm not voting for Marxists"

And in the Labour party version of Goodwin's law the M word crops up five posts in. Labour's 2017 election manifesto would be utterly unremarkable up to and including 1992. It would be considered unremarkable for any Tory manifesto up to and including 1974. Yes the Labour party has shifted to the left, but they're no more Marxist than they are Marie Of Rumania.

Corbyn is a crap leader, he's stubborn, dogmatic, humourless and intellectually average, but to label him as a Marxist just displays a wider ignorance of political philosophy.

Since Labout announced they would want ro abolish Ofsted & private schools I have no choice but to vote Tory!
Lib Dems not even in the race!

I agree with your sentiment OP but many others don't.

You have hardline Brexiteers who are cheering on his thundering blundering rhetoric, who are 100% bought into his faux "people vs parliament" narrative. Brexit at literally any cost.

Then you have Conservative Leavers. They might not like the method, but they do broadly agree with the direction of travel. Their vote isn't going to change.

Conservative Remainers, deeply uncomfortable with the direction and the methods but more fearful of a Labour Govt under Corbyn and skeptical of the Lib Dem's. You might see some movement to the centre ground here (Lib Dem, Independent or Tory Rebel), but if they have a "good" moderate Conservative MP then my bet is they will justify their vote in the local candidate rather than in Boris.

I think sensible people wont want to vote labour or lib dems either.

This.

It’s all gone a bit bonkers. Not just around the Brexit debate but various issues. Millions of people are politically homeless. There’ll be a lot of tactical voting at the GE, I imagine.

Labour plans to confiscate property, abolish private education, and devastate the economic base of this country with crippling taxes.

Damned right I’m voting Conservative, come what may.

Labour's 2017 election manifesto would be utterly unremarkable up to and including 1992

Try looking at what was decided at the Labour conference that finished yesterday. It’s faaaaar to the left of 2017!

Labour plans to confiscate property, abolish private education, and devastate the economic base of this country with crippling taxes.

I did say last week that maybe Corbyn and McDonnell are in the pay of a foreign power. I’m a lefty, but it seems a strange moment to push ahead with a “private tenant RTB and private school abolition” manifesto.

Sadly I think he will be returned with a significant majority. Leavers see him as a hero trying to fulfill the will of the people (so fed up of hearing that phrase) Others are scared by msm making out Corbyn will take us into full blown Marxism or that he is a terrorist sympathiser. I foresaw leave winning and Trump's victory. With a heavy heart I have to say we give people far more credit than they deserve. To have a misogynistic, lying and imho racist PM should be a disgrace and embarrassment to our country but as long as he gets us out of the EU some some people don't give a shit what he does.

Well the Tory party certainly is.

Tories break Theresa May’s vow to ban Russian donors
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tories-break-theresa-mays-vow-to-ban-russian-donors-glp2bl7cm

Russian oligarchs and their associates have registered donations of more than £820,000 to the Conservative Party since Theresa May became prime minister, The Sunday Times can reveal.

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Russian donor paid £135,000 to have dinner with Theresa May and cabinet members
www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/russian-donor-paid-135000-dinner-14976784

Theresa May and six female cabinet members enjoyed a boozy 'girl's night out' with the wife of a former Russian minister on Monday night as part of a fundraiser auction prize.

Lubov Chernukhin sat with Theresa May and other top politicians at the Goring Hotel, in Belgravia, London, after donating £135,000 at the Conservative Party’s Black and White ball this year.

I would hope that his single use of the word "humbug" in response to people begging him not to encourage death threats would be enough to sink his political career forever. Anyone prepared to condone that is a moral vacuum.

Others are scared by msm making out Corbyn will take us into full blown Marxism

Don’t give me this “msm” bollocks. Read his own party’s policies as decided and published at his own conference. It’s extreme socialism of the sort that would make Michael Foot queasy.

Well the Tory party certainly is.hmm

I was joking @PerkingFaintly . At least, I think I was, but quite honestly, after Cambridge Analytica, who knows what might be going on? With any party.

Yeah. I'm not.

Well, if we’re being serious, Corbyn needs to resign and let someone competent have a go. He’s dragging us back to the Kinnock years and handing the Conservatives an easy win.

And yes, having seen the spread of Russian interference in the US elections (and beyond), I would expect it to pop up in the UK in more than just the Tories.

I would be astonished if they weren't having a nudge at Labour, as another major party, by whatever route they can find. Stoking division is, after all, a key Russian strategy.

It's very, very blatant in the Tories though. The various Brexiteer groupings are fairly well Russian-connected as well. Taxpayers Alliance folks too.

I’m not even shocked, sadly.

Sorry, I don't want this thread to become all about external interference. We know that the Russians interfered on a large scale in the US, and that they had a crack at Brexit (success unknown). They also had a go at the UK electricity supply during the last General Election:
UK cyber-defence chief accuses Russia of hack attacks
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41997262

But no one held a gun to Johnson's head to make him behave as he has the last few weeks, especially this evening.

And no one is holding a gun to the heads of those lapping it up.

That's on us, if we choose to condone his behaviour.

Agree wholeheartedly Tottie.

The Labour Party should be absolutely buoyant in the polls right now.

Instead they are in the midst of self sabotage whilst Corbyn is leader.

Their "populist" policies of a 4 day working week, scrapping public schools etc are just as polarising as the rhetoric from the Conservatives.

All that said, the damage a Corbyn Govt could do in 5 years pales into insignificance compared to the utter disaster a Conservative Govt under Johnson will do that will impact many generations to come.

i thought he was good and obviously labour agree otherwise they would vote for a general election

All that said, the damage a Corbyn Govt could do in 5 years pales into insignificance compared to the utter disaster a Conservative Govt under Johnson will do that will impact many generations to come.

Yep we need someone to reverse disability benefit cuts, fund the NHS properly, sort out primary care, actually save some lives. It’s clearly not going to happen. For the unfathomable reason that electoral self-sabotage is suddenly top of the agenda.

That said, I’m speaking from a position where I now believe that brokering a deal, any deal, leaving the EU and holding another referendum five or ten years will now be less damaging than the current circus. The potential repercussions of disregarding the referendum result entirely seem very scary to me. So I’m not on the same page as anybody else at all at this point.

I’m sickened that I voted Conservative and look where we are now.
I couldn’t possibly vote Labour. We’re a swing seat- quite close at the last election. Our Labour MP is very good but the party policies sound nuts! Abolish private schools? Rental property changes. I couldn’t live with myself if they got in.
I will vote LibDem next time, at least they are a true remain party which Labour aren’t. It’s probably a wasted vote here though.