To think that sensible conservatives will not be able to vote for boris after his recent behaviour?

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Really? After lying and shutting down democracy and his disgusting performance in parliament today. Surely you can’t vote conservative now unless you’re a very small demographic that they are seemingly targeting. Surely they will lose much of their core vote now . Most folk who vote conservative aren’t are decent, law abiding people. Boris Johnson’s behaviour surely offends the majority?

Parliament is not thwarting the will of the people, standing up for at least half of the country, the constituents of the MPs who either definitely don’t want Brexit to happen, or know that it is going to happen but like this, not a no deal.

The whole thing is so incredibly depressing, this is not my country anymore

Don’t be silly, of course I’m going to still vote Conservative. I hear of people threatening to leave the UK over Brexit and I would feel exactly the same way if a Corbyn government were to ever be elected

This is Johnson. Completely dismissing the worries of female MPs about the language he is using. I watched the debate last night. He has zero empathy.

I hate BJ as a politician - always have done. But I believe the Labour Party’s direction of travel under Corbyn and McDonell sounds like old style class war politics.
Ultimately I will vote on overall policies not individual personalities and I cannot vote for Labour policies.
There is no good choice out there they all have major flaws.

I voted to leave and Boris is the only person pushing to achieve that.
The argument that half the people didn't want that is incorrect, from those who voted less than half wanted to remain and that's why the leave vote won. Not everyone voted, but their apathy is for them to live with, for those motivated to get out and vote the leave vote won.
I see this no different to labour getting in or conservatives, 'half' the people won't like it, we don't keep re-voting then!!

Boris is trying to get an election and being blocked, which means labour aren't willing to go against him, why? Because they know that what the people want is split, but there's a bloody good chance the majority do want to leave and had parliament not been so bloody pig headed and refused Mays deal 3 times we would be leaving with a vote. Us leaving without a deal lies at the feet of every member of parliament who voted to block her deal

Oh god this is all so depressing.
I dread to think what the state of this country will be a couple more years down the line.

I think it’s absolutely disgusting that a Prime Minister can stand there and completely savage the highest court in the land; then go on to use inflammatory language aimed at MPs who he knows full well are getting death threats using the exact same language.

Admittedly Jo Cox has been turned into a bit of a martyr; but to try and use her legacy for political purposes is shocking. Of course her legacy is about protection of MPs from violence, to try and turn it into something to do with Brexit shows a breathtaking arrogance.

I am deeply, deeply disappointed in Labour as well for not being a competent or challenging opposition party for years now. They are too busy bickering amongst themselves to challenge the government properly; and their recent policy announcements are, quite frankly, unhinged and made with absolutely no thought to the practicalities of how it would all play out - it would cost a ridiculous amount of money to nationalise the Water Companies and ban Independent Schools, money that would be better spent on our desperately underfunded existing public services.

To me though, the answer is absolutely not to vote for the conservatives. I am genuinely shocked at how Boris is so desperate to cover his own arse that he would bring the reputation of the Courts into doubt - the sky implication that the Court has acted politically could genuinely threaten the integrity of all the other Court cases and judgements that have been made; and its staggeringly irresponsible of the Prime Minister to do that. Adding to that the gleeful disregard for Parliament and the arrogant refusal to abide by Parliamentary law, and it’s horrific. A Prime Minister must be held to account.

I don’t agree with the Lib Dem’s either on many of their policies, and I genuinely don’t think they have the power to be in with a chance at government, though I think they will do very well at the next election.

For me, the Conservatives with Boris Johnson at the helm are by far and away the most dangerous party at the moment, so it is very likely my vote will be tactical; which may mean voting for labour despite my distaste for them and their policies - it’s sad that in this day and age, I am genuinely voting for, not the party which I believe in and support, but the Party which I believe would impose the least damage on our Country

I also agree with uou and I'm a life long Tory voter. I simply couldn't vote for him, his behavuour is appalling, and last night in parliament it was abhorrent. The surrender act, the humiliation act, the capitulation act. And he wouldn't stop, no matter how often he was asked. His language was out of line.

But I clearly can't vote for Corbyn and I don't agree with the Lib Dem policies.

Fuck knows what's going to happen but I suspect he will be removed from power at some point. Hopefully soon.

Ami leavers blocked May’s deal.

This is Johnson. Completely dismissing the worries of female MPs about the language he is using. I watched the debate last night. He has zero empathy.

The supposedly “dangerous and inflammatory” word he is using is “surrender”.

When I first read the allegation that he’d been using “pejorative language” that somehow contributes to death threats and was dangerous, I was expecting to learn that something truly terrible has been said. I wasted half an hour trying to find out what he’d said that nobody was willing to repeat.

“Surrender” really isn’t dangerous language. It doesn’t incite death threats.

It’s a really stupid issue to waste Parliament’s time on after the struggle to overturn the proroguing.

I’m beginning to think all sides have lost it.

I’d vote Conservative every day over anything meaning that John McDonnell could be implementing his policies.
Or Corbyn leading anything.

Yes, that's my husbands view, that he would vote for boris before he voted for Corbyn, it really is a rock and a hard place.

Voting for the Johnson party (I won't call it Conservative as it's not really conservative any more, and is haemorrhaging Conservative MPs) is voting for someone who doesn't care about whether stuff gets through Parliament or not.

Have you had your head in the sand rather than been watching most MPs of most parties not caring about getting stuff through and an end to this utter shit show?

Looking at social media I'm appalled at the number of people cheering him on

Me too. Women as well. How can any woman support this oaf?

Johnson is playing to the very worst of the mob and its fears, the last time a european leader did that, they took Germany, a civilised european country and turned it into a murderous regime with huge support from its population.

Anyone who uses the language he does and shows such contempt toward our judicial system, could do anything at all, already, ministers are briefing that they will introduce a new style of supreme court, which will be voted in i.e. a political court which will do whatever their masters wish.
So, after the next GE and a tory majority Johnson postpones general elections and the "new" supreme court says he can.

But thats ok because Corbyn wont be in power!!!

Corbyn is just another politician, who will introduce some policies that many won't like but they will not destroy our country or be irreversible policies

We are at a crossroads, the next GE will determine whether we become a hard right authoritarian state or take a more moderate course.

LloydBraun wow that is the biggest pile of pompous tripe I've read in a while

Now we've got BJ being compared to Hitler, offensive much?

I dread to think what the state of this country will be a couple more years down the line.

Should be fine as long as labour don't get in.

If there was a sensible labour option like Tony Blair I would vote labour. Unfortunately labour have gone too far left for me, the Lib Dem’s line on brexit I can’t get behind, so it has to be Conservative for my vote. The least of the available evils.

Since Labout announced they would want ro abolish Ofsted & private schools I have no choice but to vote Tory! Lib Dems not even in the race!

I agree with this, i have no choice!

Oh the hypocrisy, a Labour voter saying they'd vote for someone who is a proven warmonger whilst another labour voter saying BJ is akin to Hitler.

But we don't vote for Boris, we vote for our local MP. I live in a safe Tory seat and although I didn't vote for our local MP last time I would vote for him in a future election as he has done a good job as a constituency MP and been informative and considered in keeping constituents informed on Brexit progress.

Libdems and Labour are completely unelectable.

Boris is the best of a bad lot.

Watch out for Farage and his Brexit party. If we have a hung Parliament in the next GE, he may well have enough MPs to go into coalition. That's potentially even worse.

All this comes down to Labour's stupidity in moving left and appointing Ed Millibrand - since then, they've been an unelectable shambles.

Johnson is playing to the very worst of the mob and its fears funny that because you could replace "Johnson" with "Corbyn" and it would suddenly be even more true.