To not speak to my husband over Brexit!

[telvg]

So does anyone virtually want a divorce because their partner agrees with No Deal? I feel like telling my husband, when we have no money and food prices are sky high, or if someone we know can’t get medicine they need, that it’s his fault for supporting Brexit and No Deal. I don’t understand why people are so short sighted and can’t see the bigger picture. Everyone my age (mid 40s) and younger, who went to University, is anti Brexit, or at least anti No Deal. Even the most staunch, Middle Class over 60s, don’t support No Deal. The only ones who do, appear to be uneducated, ignorant or racist, homophonic, sexist etc type people. So why does my husband agree with it? I feel he’s not the man I married. So am I being unreasonable to feel this way?

You should probably not judge someone too harshly for not being as geared towards social approval points as you are.

After all what is socially cool now is in some ways totally inverted from what was 10 years ago. In another ten years "all your friends and everyone in the know" could believe the opposite of what they do now. Should your husband divorce you then?

I’ll bite. I’m mid 40’s, read Economics at university and have worked in investment banking for 20yrs. My job is to advise FTSE 250 clients on risk management and have done nothing but discuss Brexit, professionally, for the last 3yrs. I voted leave and fully support no deal.

I’m not ignorant, uneducated, racist etc.

I don't think you're unreasonable but I wouldn't say people who want it are uneducated etc. I think that's not ok.

I know more about this due to the job I do, so understand the issues of no deal on the U.K. more than most people, and I have a close friend who really wants us to leave, even with no deal, and it drives me nuts.

Because He simply can't articulate why. I can explain logically and articulately what will occur from what I know, and why it would be incredibly damaging, and he just bluntly says I want us to leave, and can't wait, and then can't follow up with any form of argument why.

If he could explain why he thinks no deal is a good idea, then I'd listen. But he can't. I assume because he knows i will have a factual rebuttal for anything he says, so he won't explain it as he can't back it up.

I find it very difficult to be honest, as I like him and care about him. He's a good friend, but on this, I struggle to interact.

YABU - so bored of people making assumptions about who a Brexit voter "must be".

It's an opinion on a political ideology and institution - whichever side of it you fall in doesn't automatically indicate your stance on every other issue (e.g. race, homosexuality).

Bluntness you should apply for the soon to be vacated job of BoE Governor if you know what no deal means for the UK.

Even Mark Carney has advised the BoE don’t know and their response won’t be automatic. You’re good.

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How about not wasting your energy over it. You can't change it, so quit worrying and get on with your life!! What will be will be now.

I can’t talk to leavers about Brexit. I value my blood pressure too much.

I mean the debate was over several years ago, was quite unpleasantly laden with characterization and slander instead of any compelling argument to vote remain. I think there is for many a difference between inability to articulate, and absolute refusal to re-argue.

People i love support Brexit. I am annoyed but still love them ( through gritted teeth.)

You can have a OP

I am neither uneducated nor racist but I support no deal. I put to you that actually you are the bigoted one. It’s a sad state of play if you and your dh cannot agree to see each other’s POV. Do you feel the need to tell him how he can and cannot vote on other things too? That’s such a shame. My dh and I vote differently. I don’t love him any less for it.

It's so difficult. Luckily dh and I are both firmly in the remain camp, but my DParents are pro brexit. The only way I can deal with it is to avoid the topic altogether but it has made me look at them in a totally different light.

id divorce over it personally. Not even joking.

PMSL! Get a grip @telvg 😂

How do get through life, seriously.

Just when I thought I had read everything on here.

Are you actually SERIOUS right now?

I am quite sure there are many people who support no deal who are not uneducated, like my husband. But from the people I know, virtually no one my age does support it, other than him. We usually get on but on this, I don’t discuss it with him now because I know we have such differing views.

I’ll bite. I’m mid 40’s, read Economics at university and have worked in investment banking for 20yrs. My job is to advise FTSE 250 clients on risk management and have done nothing but discuss Brexit, professionally, for the last 3yrs. I voted leave and fully support no deal.

I’m not ignorant, uneducated, racist etc.

Maybe not, but most of the people you've aligned yourself with are. So don't moan when people think you're ignorant, uneducated & racist. If you get into bed with dogs, you get fleas.

My dh and I vote differently. I don’t love him any less for it.

This. To be otherwise is primitive and bigoted.

I think the issue is one of frustration.

Factually there will be fuel shortages. Factually unemployment will rise. Factually the cost of living will go up by at least five percent, factually is unemployment will rise, and so on.

And the argument is "well I don't believe it" or some such shite.the inability to take a balanced view, to say yes, I understand the cost of doing business in the U.K. will rise to a level that makes us uncompetitive, that this will mean job losses. Or I get that we can't negotiate deals that are better than we can with 27 other countries behind us, or even I understand that we will be the only country trading on only wto, every other country has supplementary deals and these take years to negotiate.

It's simply i want to leave and i don't believe it.

That's what's frustrating. It's like pointing to the sky and saying look, it's really not green with pink dots, and someone looking at the blue sky and white clouds and saying, I don't believe you.

Don't have this problem. Partner and I both think no deal is the only option. If you take it off the table the EU will never offer a decent deal.

😂 @Lifecraft Goady much?!

I can’t imagine being married to a no dealer so I think you should LTB

Just agree to differ. Don't have it as a row, accept you arenot going to agree on it and avoid the subject.

Factually the price of fuel will go down. Factually unemployment will fall. Factually the pound will climb down from its unsustainable position. Factually the cost of living will go up by well in excess of 300% over the next decade or so brexit or not.

Wait hang on, that's not what "factually" means. Speculatively, then.

If you take it off the table the EU will never offer a decent deal.

What would a “decent deal” look like?

I agree with Lifecraft. I don’t know what the truth is regarding all the economic arguments etc etc. No one does. That’s why there are arguments.

However it seems likely that the biggest arseholes, racists, bigots of this country are pro-Brexit so i’d rather be on the other side