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Party organisation - is MIL being ungrateful or are we unreasonable?

203 replies

verticality · 08/07/2019 09:55

My MIL is in her early 70s. When she turned 70, we threw her a family party - basically, a long weekend away at a cottage, day-long activities she enjoyed, and home-cooked three course meals every night. The four of us (her two children, and two partners) paid for and organised the accommodation and all the food and wine, did all the cooking, and baked and decorated a special cake (which, incidentally, she was very rude about).

The organisation of all of this fell largely on me and my BIL's partner, at a time when both of us were stressed. My husband and I were having major building work done, and my husband's work was insanely busy, so he was never home and I was left handling builders myself. When I turned 40 a few months before my MIL turned 70, my celebratory 'treat' was watching a concrete floor be poured because we had no spare cash! Part of the reason for that was that anything we had was either going into the house or towards her birthday treat!

I sucked it up because, hey, I'm a grown up and this is what you do.
(However, words were had after this about the division of labour/wife work in terms of families after this. I did have a DH problem wrt to him 'outsourcing' his family carework onto me, and boundaries have been firmly drawn).

So it came as something of a surprise when MIL announced this weekend that she is 'sick of organising her own parties', and that she expects all of us to 'step up and arrange things for her in future'!! The tone was very much that we were all a major disappointment to her, despite the fact that we'd tried quite hard at a difficult time. When we were a bit taken aback and asked her what she meant, it turns out that she expects us to organise not only a weekend away but also a much bigger party involving all of her friends from the place where she lives, which is roughly 300 miles away from where we live! We don't know these people and I am honestly not sure how on earth it would work practically - we would have no idea where to send invitations/whom to invite.

I've never expected anyone who wasn't my partner to organise anything for me beyond the age of 12, and even then my expectations haven't been particularly high. Is it normal for people to demand that sons/daughters organise absolutely everything for their significant birthdays? What is normal in terms of time? PIL have both been retired for ages, and FIL never so much as lifts a finger to help towards any family occasion, despite being 100% capable and competent. Isn't it more his job to arrange his wife's birthday events, or AIBU?

Also: what is normal in terms of financing these things? These weekends away run to a cost of hundreds (FIL's 70th a few years ago was upwards of £700 per couple, MIL's was upwards of £500), and we would honestly struggle financially to organise a big party on top.

This is likely to come up again when we see them in future, so I would like to have some kind of response prepared. I was so surprised this weekend that I was speechless, which meant that I didn't really assert myself at all Sad. What is reasonable, oh wise vipers of Mumsnet?

OP posts:
GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 08/07/2019 09:58

Your MIL sounds like a bloody nightmare. And she's your MIL, not your Mum. Hand the problem over to DH to sort out; his mother; his drama. You don't have to do a thing.

BBBear · 08/07/2019 09:59

‘You’re 70, not 7. Organise your own birthday.’

That should cover it!

sneakypinky · 08/07/2019 10:00

Ridiculous woman.

AldiAisleOfTat · 08/07/2019 10:01

Make it DH problem

CoraPirbright · 08/07/2019 10:01

She sounds horrible and ungrateful. Why on Earth would she be rude about your cake? All families are different but certainly in my family (and extended) it is generally the partner of the birthday person who sorts things out.

Incidentally, you don't mention her doing her own parties - does she?

2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney · 08/07/2019 10:04

Been to a 70th birthday meal last weekend. He cooked. In the summer my parents are having a big bash for their 60th wedding. I am getting the telegram organised that’s about it. I wouldn’t dream of asking someone else to organise and finance my celebration. Your MIL is a CF and FIL a lazy sod.

diddl · 08/07/2019 10:05

Birthday events costing hundreds?!

Just not in my realm of understanding/experience at all.

If you can't afford it then don't contribute/take part.

If you can afford something, leave it to your husband & his brother(?) to sort out something for their own mum.

AppleKatie · 08/07/2019 10:05

This is an unreasonable expectation so as far as I see you have two choices.

‘No MIL we can’t afford that so we won’t be organising anything, let us know what you decide to do we’d love to make it if we can’ said by either you or DH,

OR

Completely ignore her and don’t plan anything and do faux confusion and pretend you never understood this was what she wanted when it comes up.

Summertimeatthebeach · 08/07/2019 10:05

Assure her for her 80th you will make sure fil sorts one out!!

Ghanagirl · 08/07/2019 10:05

Send her the name of a party planner

Gustavo1 · 08/07/2019 10:05

At the start of your message, I had assumed you were writing about a widowed, elderly lady!
Ignore anything about future events. You have done more than your duty on this party. To top it off, the recipient isn’t even grateful! If she wants any more celebrations, she or her husband can organise and fund them. Quite frankly, you’ve done enough.

ThistleDownHair · 08/07/2019 10:07

I agree with PP - she is ungrateful and this is an issue for your DH to deal with.

However, if you share a bank account I’d be making it clear to him that he can arrange whatever party he sees fit to however, due to your financial circumstances, you are not prepared for it to cost more than X amount. Otherwise he could end up spending hundreds and blame you for washing your hands of MILs party arrangements!

MzHz · 08/07/2019 10:07

How did she announce this? By email/text?

I’d suggest you just ignore it collectively.

Or go back as a group and say no, it’s just not possible/reasonable

Be brave, she’s being insanely unreasonable

DappledThings · 08/07/2019 10:07

She's being utterly unreasonable. My mum was 70 last year. We had a family holiday that my SIL did the bulk of organising and we split the cost of travel/accommodation between the three couples. On holiday one of the meals out was a bit fancier than the others and DH and I paid for it for everyone as it was also my brother's birthday.

Two weekends later mum organised her own fancy lunch with us and two other couples that my parents paid for.

That all seems reasonable to me!

verticality · 08/07/2019 10:08

Cora - she has a wedding anniversary coming up, and I think this is a not-so-veiled complaint that she has had to organise the party for it. She clearly thinks we should be the ones doing it.

Perhaps I'm being selfish but it never really crossed my mind that we might be the ones asked to organise the occasion for that! It would be different if they were mentally incapacitated or very ill, but they are two healthy 70-somethings.

I think she's also complaining that she had to arrange a separate get-together for her friends for her 70th (she arranged afternoon tea in a cafe). In her mind, this was clearly also our job, even though we don't know who her friends and acquaintances are apart from a couple who are old family friends!

I am wondering whether this is 'normal' in other families for children to arrange wedding anniversary/birthday parties with lots of friends? In my family, we have the occasional informal get-together, but it's more like ringing around and going to the supermarket - not a whole RSVP invites, venue hire and catering shebang!

OP posts:
AppleKatie · 08/07/2019 10:10

You are not selfish and what’s she’s asking for isn’t normal!

SavageBeauty73 · 08/07/2019 10:10

I have never heard anything like it! Nuts.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 08/07/2019 10:11

I wouldn't hand this over to my DH - if you've historically had issues with him there's a danger he'll fuck up any communication by committing you to spendy events in the future. This needs dealing with in a way that leaves no room for misunderstanding, so best to do it yourself.
I think a very blunt discussion needs to be had with mil where you tell her everything you've told us here. Make it clear that you won't be organising any more parties and your priority in future will be your own life.
Given that your husband has previously dumped all this on you, let him know on no uncertain terms that you expect his support 100% and that he is not to commit you to anything in terms of time or money.

Well done on drawing up boundaries with DH - now you need to do it with mil.

Summertimeatthebeach · 08/07/2019 10:11

Just tell her it's appropriate for people who attended the wedding to sort out its celebration.....

CalmdownJanet · 08/07/2019 10:12

Next time it comes up say "Well your next big birthday isn't for a while off yet but I am done organising, this is down to fil or your sons, I did loads for your 70th, as did sil and honestly you were so ungrateful about it that I am laying my cards on the table now and saying that I am not on the organisation committee for any future events so I don't need to be apart of any more demands or conversations about any birthdays"

VBT2 · 08/07/2019 10:16

It sounds like a clash of expectations to me. She’s disappointed as she obviously wanted a big party (and why not, she is turning 70) and instead she got a family weekend away.

I don’t think YABU, she is being ungrateful but at the same time, I don’t think she’s wrong to hope that her family would throw her a big birthday do. When I read your description, I did kind of think ‘that’s not really a party.’

In my family we’d usually always throw a big party for parents and grandparents, rather than them organise it themselves. We’d all team up and do a bit, but from your OP it sounds like it all falls to you. That’s not really fair, I’d expect everyone to help out.

Sn0tnose · 08/07/2019 10:17

She can want what she likes, but this is absolutely not your problem.

If it comes up in conversation, remind her about her 70th, which cost you a fortune you couldn’t afford and which she was very rude about and simply say ‘I won’t be doing that again’.

Or, as they are his parents, let your DH tell them that neither of you have the time or money to arrange anything so if she wants a party, the onus is on them to arrange it.

fedup21 · 08/07/2019 10:17

"Well your next big birthday isn't for a while off yet but I am done organising, this is down to fil or your sons, I did loads for your 70th, as did sil and honestly you were so ungrateful about it that I am laying my cards on the table now and saying that I am not on the organisation committee for any future events so I don't need to be apart of any more demands or conversations about any birthdays"

This. And say the weekend away cost you a fortune that you couldn’t afford meaning you had nothing for your birthday.

If you don’t say anything-your problem will get worse.

Is your DH in support?

FriarTuck · 08/07/2019 10:19

Wedding anniversary - up to the married couple to sort it.
Birthdays - up to the birthday person unless their spouse / partner / family / close friend decide (as opposed to are told) to make a big deal of it (mainly big birthdays).
You did a really good 70th for her and she was ungrateful, I'd not be bothering again. If she doesn't want to sort it herself then FIL can do it. If he can't be bothered then maybe she has a DH problem Grin

BlueSkiesLies · 08/07/2019 10:20

"Well your next big birthday isn't for a while off yet but I am done organising, this is down to fil or your sons, I did loads for your 70th, as did sil and honestly you were so ungrateful about it that I am laying my cards on the table now and saying that I am not on the organisation committee for any future events so I don't need to be apart of any more demands or conversations about any birthdays"

BOOM this is perfect