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Party organisation - is MIL being ungrateful or are we unreasonable?

203 replies

verticality · 08/07/2019 09:55

My MIL is in her early 70s. When she turned 70, we threw her a family party - basically, a long weekend away at a cottage, day-long activities she enjoyed, and home-cooked three course meals every night. The four of us (her two children, and two partners) paid for and organised the accommodation and all the food and wine, did all the cooking, and baked and decorated a special cake (which, incidentally, she was very rude about).

The organisation of all of this fell largely on me and my BIL's partner, at a time when both of us were stressed. My husband and I were having major building work done, and my husband's work was insanely busy, so he was never home and I was left handling builders myself. When I turned 40 a few months before my MIL turned 70, my celebratory 'treat' was watching a concrete floor be poured because we had no spare cash! Part of the reason for that was that anything we had was either going into the house or towards her birthday treat!

I sucked it up because, hey, I'm a grown up and this is what you do.
(However, words were had after this about the division of labour/wife work in terms of families after this. I did have a DH problem wrt to him 'outsourcing' his family carework onto me, and boundaries have been firmly drawn).

So it came as something of a surprise when MIL announced this weekend that she is 'sick of organising her own parties', and that she expects all of us to 'step up and arrange things for her in future'!! The tone was very much that we were all a major disappointment to her, despite the fact that we'd tried quite hard at a difficult time. When we were a bit taken aback and asked her what she meant, it turns out that she expects us to organise not only a weekend away but also a much bigger party involving all of her friends from the place where she lives, which is roughly 300 miles away from where we live! We don't know these people and I am honestly not sure how on earth it would work practically - we would have no idea where to send invitations/whom to invite.

I've never expected anyone who wasn't my partner to organise anything for me beyond the age of 12, and even then my expectations haven't been particularly high. Is it normal for people to demand that sons/daughters organise absolutely everything for their significant birthdays? What is normal in terms of time? PIL have both been retired for ages, and FIL never so much as lifts a finger to help towards any family occasion, despite being 100% capable and competent. Isn't it more his job to arrange his wife's birthday events, or AIBU?

Also: what is normal in terms of financing these things? These weekends away run to a cost of hundreds (FIL's 70th a few years ago was upwards of £700 per couple, MIL's was upwards of £500), and we would honestly struggle financially to organise a big party on top.

This is likely to come up again when we see them in future, so I would like to have some kind of response prepared. I was so surprised this weekend that I was speechless, which meant that I didn't really assert myself at all Sad. What is reasonable, oh wise vipers of Mumsnet?

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Thornhill58 · 16/09/2019 14:42

Oh my life. She sounds like Veruca Salt I want, I want, I want. So bloody what? Their anniversary their problem. She is so lucky that you organised a treat for her.
Do not indulge such spoilt behaviour. Your husband needs to have a word with the brat.

Party organisation - is MIL being ungrateful or are we unreasonable?
Thornhill58 · 16/09/2019 14:45

PS: what did she organised for your 40th? It works both way.

dollydaydream114 · 16/09/2019 14:58

Bloody hell. My dad’s 70th was a party for friends and family in my parents’ garden, organised by my mum. Us kids and their partners helped with the buffet and the tidying up. We clubbed together to buy him an iPad and he was so overwhelmed that he cried. Grin

Your MIL’s expectations are insane and I do think your DH needs to have a word with her.

cheeseandpineapple · 16/09/2019 15:00

OP, good to hear you’ve got a plan. Re your first point:

“- to have a firm word about the way in which she speaks to me”

When are you or your DH planning this?

Ideally should be ASAP before the next set of celebrations whilst it’s still relatively recent after their anniversary. Your husband should simply ask his mother if she has an issue with you as her tone with you was noticeably more imperative than with anyone else.

Separately and at a later point you can let them know you’ve got your own Xmas plans. Would avoid trying to package it all up together. But if it does end up being said all at the same time she’ll understand that actions have consequences.

verticality · 16/09/2019 15:08

@SconeofDestiny Sorry to hear about your 50th! Having had a comprehensively rubbish 40th, I empathise. I have decided am going to celebrate my 45th in style instead, to compensate! Grin

In terms of our birthdays, not only does she not do anything, she actually creates MORE work. It is DH's in a few weeks, and she refuses to make her own decision about what to buy him, instead asking me to send her ideas. I therefore effectively have to do all the mental work of finding an extra gift for her to give him!! I send an idea (usually around £40) with a link to buy it online so literally all she has to do is to decide, click and pay. I tell her that it doesn't matter about delivery as I am usually in (I am freelance and work from home) and anyway, we live 200 yards from the sorting office if I happen to be out. She will proceed to send 4-5 further emails fussing about various aspects of the present and delivery, e.g. asking me whether it has arrived within 2 hours of ordering, sending instructions about the paper I use to wrap it up, sending a gift tag in the post for me to attach etc.

Literally everything she does is like this - attention-seeking, extremely fussy, with no concern whatsoever for the other person's time or stress levels. For DH's 40th, when I was organising umpteen other events and gifts, it was maddening. So yeah, not only does she not organise anything for DH or myself, we have to do her organising for her.

Obviously, I'm not going to play ball this year!!

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WhoAmIToTellYou · 16/09/2019 15:18

Woah! So she wants you to spend your time and money to organise her celebrations (which she is going to not appreciate and bitch about as recent example showed)??
Wow. I would tell her that neither your budget nor life schedule can support this and send her links to some party planners.

CF cow. She’s retired (and presumably well off going by her expectations), she can organise it herself.

Alternatively, how about a cheery ‘brilliant idea. Im sick of organising my family’s birthdays as well- im sure you’ll love organising those for us, next is dc’s birthday next month- im looking forward to you sorting it out. Cheers love’

mankyfourthtoe · 16/09/2019 15:27

Dh needs to speak to them before Christmas so you can enjoy yourself then.
You need to set £ limits on birthday presents including meals/days out. It needs to be firm.
Also I'd ignore any emails off her re anything really, if she wasn't family you wouldn't put up with her. She can come up with her own crappy ideas, and don't wrap it!

mankyfourthtoe · 16/09/2019 15:30

Dear mum/mil
We hope you enjoyed your celebration week. Sadly we didn't, the help we offered during the week barely received a Thankyou, and your tone and lack of basic manners left us upset.
As such we will be significantly limiting the spending on family birthday/events so please ensure that any contribution will be within our budget.
(And organise your own son's present you miserable old bitch)

verticality · 16/09/2019 15:35

Oh hell yes - I am not waiting for months! I was thinking of a break of a couple of weeks and then a conversation after I've done my Dad's 70th (early October). We don't live close to either of our families so the Christmas issue will need to be explicitly discussed, since it involves overnight stays etc due to the distance. We will have to say "We are not coming this year" and that will be a good time to have this conversation.

My family are at a completely different end of the country from PIL, and to be honest they have come second in previous years due to PIL being more demanding than they are. It's isn't fair on them. So this is my chance to spend time and energy on them.

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Windydaysuponus · 16/09/2019 15:50

Few months notice for mil to find more staff for her Christmas celebrations then?!

verticality · 16/09/2019 16:59

Hahahaha @Windydaysuponus - she might have to pay minimum wage! Grin

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Sewrainbow · 16/09/2019 17:20

I wouldn't engage with her anymore about gifts for your dh and let your dh deal with her behaviour at the anniversary party and any future gifts AND cards for her and fil. No way would I be bothering with her after that behaviour she sounds horrid Shock

cheeseandpineapple · 16/09/2019 17:27

Good to hear OP, all the best with the convo and keep us posted on how it goes!

Lipz · 16/09/2019 17:45

Every family is different, everyone has different expectations. For me I would never think or be bothered organising a party for myself. I have done for everyone else.

For my own parents when they were alive we booked, paid and surprised them for big birthday and milestone anniversaries with parties and hotels etc I did find they liked the big room with lots of people more.

When I met dh he told me his parents hated parties, hated surprises so over ALL the years we never made a big deal, just a cake and card and gift. Then when MIL was 70, and nothing was organised not even a meet up, I got together with 2 sils (not MILs dd) and we booked a hotel, hired a room, got all the names of friends from neighbours, we knew the majority of family members but there was always someone who knew someone else, we just did finger food and tbh I never ever seen such happiness on her face when she opened the door, she cried and cried, she was so happy, I don't know if she changed with time or did always like a party just no one ever organised one. She actually sent me and 2 sils bouquets the following week thanking us.

Sometimes people do like a BIG get together and a room with music and food and friends and neighbours etc more so than a cottage with dinner indoors.

But of course it's up to you to what you prefer to do and can afford, I'd never leave party arranging with dh, he just wouldn't have a clue.

Preggosaurus9 · 16/09/2019 18:25

I'm confused as to how DH expects you to do all this effort and spend all this cash on his DM. I'm actually more confused that is all going on while he does FA for your birthday. That's just insanity.

The whole family dynamic sounds weird as!

RandomMess · 16/09/2019 18:52

I am so glad you MIL showed her true colours to everyone, I hope the FOG lifts from BIL ASAP, your poor SIL if he doesn't!

user1487194234 · 16/09/2019 19:24

Definitely for your DH to sort
My siblings always pay for DPs birthdays/anniversaries /weekends away etc but wouldn't expect DH to pay

georgialondon · 16/09/2019 20:15

Good for you OP!

Supersimkin · 16/09/2019 20:24

Awful old woman. Tell her and anyone else who's interested that after how rude she was at the 60th you bust a gut over, all you can do is laugh if she asks again.

JasBBGG · 16/09/2019 20:32

Please update when you tell her you aren't going at Xmas Grin

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 16/09/2019 20:39

£400! Christ! I wouldn’t spend that on DH! For someone’s anniversary!

All I’m saying is, she be got a big anniversary coming up next year, OP... hint, hint...

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 16/09/2019 20:39

She be got???? I’ve got!!

RevealTheLegend · 16/09/2019 20:46

Does anybody ever do anything for you OP?

Itching it is time to go on strike. This are ALL treating you like shit (yr DH included tbh)

Sceptre86 · 16/09/2019 21:05

I would not bother again tbh. She was very rude, leave it to your dh and brother next time and see what they come up with. If she makes any disparaging remarks respond in kind.

We got my mil a ruby necklace for her ruby anniversary, a special cake and took them out to dinner. When I gave her the necklace she asked where the matching earrings were? After that I left it up to dh to sort out, for a few years he bought a card but now she is lucky if she gets a phonecall ( I refuse to constantly remind him). I think anniversaries should be between husband and wife, birthday gifts should be sorted by kids but arranging parties should be left to spouses if you live far away and wouldn't necessarily know who to invite.

Butterymuffin · 16/09/2019 21:07

When you get the enquiry about your husband's birthday present, reply with 'if you don't know what to get your son, try a voucher or cash instead' and do not engage further.

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