To put up and shut up with the transphobia on here?

[thetonsillolith]

I am fully supportive of the LGBTQ community and don't feel it is my position to question or undermine those who believe they were born in the wrong body.

And yet i see literally hundreds of intolerant posts on here and say nothing. Probably because I'm worried about being shouted down.

This is part of the problem isn't it? I should speak up.

Does anybody else feel like this or is it just me?

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You should report any transphobic posts and they will be removed.

I think there's a huge difference between transphobia and concern about women's rights, but everytime a concern is raised you'll get shouted down as transphobic.

And yet i see literally hundreds of intolerant posts on here and say nothing

So, say something then. Which posts?

I haven’t seen anything on here about transphobia. What I have seen is a lot of concern about women’s rights.

I'm all for rights, just not when they trample over another groups rights.

Report the posts.

It’s not transphobic to want single sex services and facilities.

Having a difference of opinion does not automatically make someone "transphobic."

You definitely should speak up if you see any transphobic posts and report them. It's strange though because these claims of transphobia come up quite a lot and while I do see trans issues being discussed regularly, I never seem to see an transphobia. Weird 🤷‍♀️

Or womens sports.

Report transphobia and it will be removed. But don't try to stop women discussing issues that directly effect their rights. This isnt Gilead... yet.

I am fully supportive of the LGBTQ community

How does this manifest itself?

How do you feel when lesbians are told they must 'do dick' or that makes them 'transphobes'?

Does this worry you or are you all for it?

This is a big site. There's all kinds of different viewpoints on a lot of important issues. You are welcome to your views. Others are welcome to theirs. There are rules about what can and can't be said, so the tone of any debate on any topic has to stay reasonably civil. Freedom of Speech is very important. If you see a comment you don't like, feel free to say why you don't like it.
I have to say though I'm not sure you have been reading carefully if you say you've seen 'literally hundreds ' of intolerant posters on LGBT topics. Those threads are pretty hotly policed.

3 questions to get you going OP:

• giving puberty blockers to children (which have lifelong impact, they aren't 'reversible')
• transwomen competing in female sport with all the advantage their male born body gives them
• sex offenders such as Karen White being placed in women's jails

Report anything you find offensive.

The vast majority of posts on here about ‘transgender issues’ are posted by women who are concerned about the erosion of women’s rights and the wellbeing of children.

It’s Mumsnet.

Well I see a lot of posts where people proclaim they utterly reject the idea that somebody could think they were born in the wrong body.

How is that not transphobia?

You couldn't and wouldn't say you utterly reject the idea that somebody could love somebody of the same sex as them.

Just you.

The rest of us are worried about our children and the erosion of women's rights.

I believe gender is a construct and sex is a biological reality.

I’m not ‘phobic’ towards people who believe they were born in the wrong body. I just don’t believe they were.

This is just another “wah wah wah, MN is transphobic” post dressed up as a question.

Just because people are applying critical thinking and questioning the glaringly obvious problems arising from the trans bandwagon doesn’t mean everyone is transphobic.

I couldn’t give a fuck who lives as what. I very much give all the fucks in the world that women are expected to put up with our rights being chipped away at.

I’m sure there’s a way forward for everyone. Calling valid concerns transphobia is not it.

Well I see a lot of posts where people proclaim they utterly reject the idea that somebody could think they were born in the wrong body.

I actually don't think you see a lot of posts saying that.

What you do see people saying (and certainly what I think is true) is that the appropriate treatment for a person who thinks they were born in the wrong body is not to change their body, but to change their mind. They need psychiatric help, not surgical or hormonal treatment.

Because many people do not and will never believe that human beings can change sex from female to male or from male to female.
It's not hate speech or transphobic to state biological facts.

Transphobia - meh. It’s like when you repeat any word over and over again until it starts to sound odd and loses all sense of meaning. It’s been thrown around so much that it’s actually come to mean “I can’t argue with facts so I’m going to accuse you of being horrid”.

No OP, posters’ point is that it is not possible to change biological sex.

I think someone is after some "Look At Those MN Meanies" screenshots tbh.

I totally reject the idea that there is a god and yet manage to treat people of all faiths with respect.