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Teacher shouted at me

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Millie2018 · 13/05/2019 11:54

Dropped my DD off at nursery and walk round past the junior school building to get out. I’m pushing a buggy, which has my 1yo asleep in. A teacher opens her door and starts shouting at me. I can’t hear so walk closer to her and say pardon and she shouts at me “we are trying to do a test in here”. I’m confused and look around and say ok? Then another parent comes over and picks up her nursery aged child who had wondered over to the classroom window. The teacher obviously thought the child was mine. I’m pretty shocked. Firstly, when did it become ok to shout at parents on school grounds? Secondly, you're shouting at the wrong parent. Thirdly, it’s nursery pick up time and your window is on the pick up route (there’s no alternative). Would I be unreasonable to drop in the office on my afternoon run to mention it? Or is this just the norm now?!

OP posts:
somecakefather · 14/05/2019 17:10

I'd of bounced in that school and give her what for! Cheeky cow

Would you really? And what would you have said?

TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 14/05/2019 18:12

"I'd of bounced in that school and give her what for! Cheeky cow"

Hahahahaha. You'd HAVE done fuck all.

WombatChocolate · 14/05/2019 18:12

Mz is clearly one-off those people who spends her life being furious about day to day occurrences and who feels the need to make everything into a battle because she feels her dignity has been attacked and needs robustly defending........rather than just thinking 'hmm, she clearly thinks that child over there is mine and seems rather keen to get a point over quickly' before carrying on and very quickly forgetting all about it.

Mzjackson86 · 15/05/2019 18:16

Firstly @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius don't be so literal. Did i say anywhere that I would have stormed the class room full of children. I'd of waited for that particular teacher with her superior in the office and made my point very heavily,
being shouted at out of a window by a teacher in front of a class full of children taking a test (as she herself pointed out) isn't adult behaviour either, And is extremely belittling. If the test was that important surly it could have been sat at a quieter time not when nursery is letting out??
Their is a big difference between standing up for yourself and not having control over ones temper.

Mzjackson86 · 15/05/2019 18:18

Maybe I am just firey then

my2bundles · 15/05/2019 18:24

MzJackson. It was a year 6 SATS exam, every primary in tne country had to issue the test at the same time on the same day, so no it couldn't be set at a quieter to fit in with nursery. The teacher wasn't belittling anyone, the teacher 2 as informing someone they whete disrupting a class of 10 year old children sitting an exam.

my2bundles · 15/05/2019 18:35

MzJackson. Those children have been studying all year for the SATS they have been anxious about them. They have 1 chance to take that test, on a set time on a set day and have 50 minutes to take the test. Pens down strictly on time as it's heavily moderated. Exams are then sealed and sent to tne examinations board within a couple of hours. This isn't some little spelling tests these are important exams. Tbe teacher had every right to ensure these children where not disrupted, if patents of toddlers don't like being informed then tough in my opinion. The exam conditions took priority.

corythatwas · 15/05/2019 18:55

a) Wouldn't it have been more stressful and distracting for the pupils to have their teacher shouting?

b) If the school hasn't explained to the children that this is not "the 1 chance" to do something that is important for their future, but simply a way of evaluating the school's teaching, then they haven't been doing their job.

c) Parents should also explain this to their children.

my2bundles · 15/05/2019 19:23

I was explaining why the exams couldn't be rearranged to fit in around nursery children. If tne class had already been disrupted tne children would have been more than happy for the teacher to put a stop to the disruption, even if this meant shouting for someone to be quiet.

SmileEachDay · 15/05/2019 20:46

Surely leaving the classroom during a test and shouting across the playground like a loon then huffing back in to the room

This is my favourite complete fabrication from the info in the OP.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/05/2019 21:04

”I'd of bounced in that school and give her what for! Cheeky cow”

Golly yes - how could I have misread that so badly, @Mzjackson86. It is obvious from your well thought out and considered post that you would have requested a meeting with the Head and the teacher concerned, to give them the benefit of your ‘point’. Hmm

TreadingThePrimrosePath · 15/05/2019 21:14

During SATS week, most schools are on silent running during tests, KS1 see it as working together to help Y6 do their best.
Y6 are more likely to see their teacher telling adults to shush as proof that what they are doing is Very Important and that they are the top priority that week. Some may have been attending booster classes for months.
Some children and adults also can’t tell the difference between shouting and projecting. Teacher may have been doing the latter.
SATS are one of the main criteria on which a school is judged, poor results can trigger an OFSTED.
But yes, let’s focus on the hurt feelings.

LJdorothy · 15/05/2019 21:20

The teacher called out "we're are trying to do a test in here" because if she'd said it quietly she wouldn't have been heard outside the room. It wasn't abusive or rude in the slightest, although I can understand it would be annoying when the toddler wasn't yours, OP.
If toddlers are regularly staring in the classroom windows that isn't acceptable, SATs or not. The teacher is probably totally pissed off that the nursery parents think that's okay. As for not being in the right job, there is hardly a teacher in the land who feels they're in the right job nowadays.

corythatwas · 16/05/2019 14:08

Yr 6 are more likely to see their teacher telling adults to shush as proof that what they are doing is Very Important and that they are the top priority that week.

This is precisely what some of us object to. It is sold to those, still very young children, as an important exam WHICH THEY MUST NOT FAIL.

While the actual truth is the next part of your post:

SATS are one of the main criteria on which a school is judged, poor results can trigger an OFSTED.

Imho (and I am somebody whose career hangs on whether a student takes a dislike to me) schools have no right to project their nervousness onto young children. And they should not be promoting untruths.

TreadingThePrimrosePath · 16/05/2019 16:47

Don’t tell me, tell the government.
Our Y6 know if they try their best that’s all they need to do, and that it helps their secondary school know if they need a bit of extra support in some areas. The schools doing their jobs properly are the ones where most of the children are resilient enough by Y6 to deal with SATS, and those that aren’t are cared for and supported.
A number of schools near me have been running a special breakfast/mindfulness clubs this week to build the sense of being in a team and ensure the children have a decent breakfast.

Gth1234 · 16/05/2019 17:21

The teacher was clearly at his/her wit's end. He has another 2 weeks ticking books, and then he /she gets 12 weeks holiday on full pay. It's a hard life.

ilovesooty · 16/05/2019 17:42

Gth1234 are you naturally snide or do you practise?

TreadingThePrimrosePath · 16/05/2019 18:09

Not snide, just tediously, predictably boring. 35 years and I’m still hearing the same bullshit lines.
How much longer before teaching is seen as a 5 year career by entrants?

LJdorothy · 16/05/2019 19:26

Feel free to retrain Gth1234. I'm getting out and so are thousands of other teachers, despite our fabulous holidays and short, easy working day. There should be plenty of room for you. Incidentally, the teacher is female, as you'd have realised if you'd read the thread more carefully.

SmileEachDay · 16/05/2019 19:54

The teacher was clearly at his/her wit's end. He has another 2 weeks ticking books, and then he /she gets 12 weeks holiday on full pay. It's a hard life

Yup. That’s me. Except I might not even bother ticking. Might just put my feet up and stick a video on.

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Lndnmummy · 16/05/2019 19:59

She was probably “shouting” to make whatever the toddler was doing stop as it was distracting for the children doing exams. Poor her, she was trying to give her children the best possible chance of doing well in their exams. That was her focus. I’d cut her some slack

TeddybearBaby · 16/05/2019 20:00

I’m sorry you was upset @Millie2018. The teacher was probably disappointed in her own lack of planning. I’d have thought signs would be up everywhere notifying parents ‘ssssh exams in progress’. She probably wishes she had notified the nursery as well (maybe she did and they are incompetent). Who knows 🤷🏻‍♀️. But one thing is for sure and that was that you were wandering along quietly minding your own business and didn’t deserve to be shouted at. There’s nothing at all wrong with being sensitive. Who does like being shouted at for no reason? No one I know. Anyway forget it now and have a nice glass of 🍷 x

Lndnmummy · 16/05/2019 20:06

I would HAVE!! Not I would of.

Completely off topic, carry on Brew

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