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Teacher shouted at me

223 replies

Millie2018 · 13/05/2019 11:54

Dropped my DD off at nursery and walk round past the junior school building to get out. I’m pushing a buggy, which has my 1yo asleep in. A teacher opens her door and starts shouting at me. I can’t hear so walk closer to her and say pardon and she shouts at me “we are trying to do a test in here”. I’m confused and look around and say ok? Then another parent comes over and picks up her nursery aged child who had wondered over to the classroom window. The teacher obviously thought the child was mine. I’m pretty shocked. Firstly, when did it become ok to shout at parents on school grounds? Secondly, you're shouting at the wrong parent. Thirdly, it’s nursery pick up time and your window is on the pick up route (there’s no alternative). Would I be unreasonable to drop in the office on my afternoon run to mention it? Or is this just the norm now?!

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Millie2018 · 13/05/2019 14:28

None of us!

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my2bundles · 13/05/2019 14:29

What weeping wino said. Plus a school playground is not tne place for parental chit chat at any point during lesson time.

PopcornPopper · 13/05/2019 14:29

With a child in nursery why on earth would someone know it was SATs week?

I would mention it to the school only from a putting signs up and notifying other parents type of thing.

I have sat in on a year 2 SATs class, we had children crying because they hate taking tests. The stakes for the school are high, it is shit for everyone involved.

But our school put up huge signs and notify parents before it happens.

Millie2018 · 13/05/2019 14:30

Bobmcbob That’s not what happened at all.

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user1511042793 · 13/05/2019 14:33

If this were a shop assistant everyone would say complain but it’s SATs week and a teacher and we’re supposed to let them off. I would never shout at someone in the course of my stressful work neither should a teacher. I would complain. Not on.

AlexaAmbidextra · 13/05/2019 14:33

Well I’d go to the Head, to OFSTED and to my local MP. I might even do a sad face for the DM. Do people really get upset about such trivia?

clairemcnam · 13/05/2019 14:35

user If a shop assistant stood at the entrance to a shop and shouted for someone to collect their roaming toddler, I would totally support the shop assistant.

my2bundles · 13/05/2019 14:36

Maybe call into the office offering apologies that tne nursery children disrupted tbe important SATS exams. Express concern for the year 6 children. Would be a nice gesture and they may even send a note home asking parents to be considerate when leaving school grounds. Not that they should be reminded to be considerate of children's learning but in this day and age it seems to be the case sadly.

clairemcnam · 13/05/2019 14:36

MN has introduced me to some of the type of people who do sad faces for local papers over trivial petty shit.

WombatChocolate · 13/05/2019 14:37

The thing that shocks me is how thin skinned and easily upset some adults are. As others have said, I would have moved on from this within a few moments and certainly not be dwelling on it hours later. Honestly what is the point at feeling so offended or embarrassed at someone shouting some information to you, because otherwise it will be impossible for you to hear it from where you are? And the very idea of then possibly making a complaint about it - goodness knows how many hours of staff time that would take to follow up and deal with, to exactly what kind of effect.

I really don't think this was the teacher trying to 'Lord it over you' but just pass on a message quickly. They could have left the room and walked over to where you were and had a detailed and gentle conversation about SAts and discovered it wasn't your child anyway, but that would have taken them away from their classroom where the tests were happening and taken time, and they just needed a quick solution. So it wasn't your child, but is that really a big deal - you were the adult they saw.

I suspect you don't like the sense tHat they somehow felt you were in the wrong and not in control of the little child - to be honest, they won't have given it enough thought to have formed a judgement about you or the child and certainly not be being critical - just literally passing on information in a raised voice so you could hear it. So I think you are being hyper sensitive and feeling judged when you weren't being judged and wronged when you weren't being wronged. Move on. Life's too short to create jags which aren't even molehills!

Drogosnextwife · 13/05/2019 14:37

clairemcnam

😂 Yeah that's how we measure wether someone's had an easy life. It's been far from easy love. Not sure why that's of any relevance 😂. I guess you think you have some moral high ground because you would shrug it off and walk away. You may think I'm a drama queen, I think you're a push over.

TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 13/05/2019 14:38

She hardly screamed a tirade of abuse at you did she? Get over it.

Popcorntwice · 13/05/2019 14:39

I've done my time at school. No way would I tolerate being shouted at as an adult by a teacher (or anyone).

AbbyHammond · 13/05/2019 14:40

I think you should log it with 111.

toomuchtooold · 13/05/2019 14:41

I imagine the teacher shouted because the class had already been disrupted by the noise in the playground

Was there even a noise? From what the OP said, there was a toddler outside the classroom. They would have had to scream quite loudly to have been heard through a classroom window - I'm assuming that the window was shut if they were doing a listening exercise.

AbbyHammond · 13/05/2019 14:42

She shouted because you couldn't here her, she didn't yell at you to fuck off.

Just let it go.

clairemcnam · 13/05/2019 14:42

Drogo A pushover? This is not an injustice.

WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 13/05/2019 14:44

It may not have been noise, the children may have simply been distracted by the toddler running around.

It doesn't matter. None of this matters. What matters is the kids being allowed to get on with the test without whining adults wanting to make things harder for staff at a stressful time of year. I daresay the teacher may well ask for some notices to be put up, following this.

Millie2018 · 13/05/2019 14:45

I do get upset about these things which is one of the reasons I posted, to get some perspective. I don’t tend to shout at people, but understand now about the exams and that the teacher couldn’t leave the classroom. I will pop into the infants office and mention a comm wouldn’t go amiss regarding noise and exams. It is a big school and pick up and drop offs do get busy, but on this occasion it wasn’t.

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Drogosnextwife · 13/05/2019 14:47

clairemcnam

A drama queen?

Well it kind of was, as it wasn't the OP's child and the OP didn't make any noise 🤷

WombatChocolate · 13/05/2019 14:48

I don't understand this 'not be a push over' thing and needing to find things and treatments to take offence at and object to, as some form of 'self defence' all the time, as if the whole world is out to get you and there is a constant battle to be fought. Why do people insisit on seeing malicious intent in everyone's interaction with themselves?

And about putting up sign about SAts - well yes they could have done and it could be a good idea. But the fact that they hadn't put them up and thought of every single little possibility involving every other person who might visit the school premises on SAts week, whilst ensuring all the other stuff that was necessary happened, probably including all children had eaten before taking those tests,doesn't mean that someone needs to make a complaint or see the teacher calling across the playground as some kind of evidence of failure to properly plan.

Why can't people accept that sometimes scenarios arise where communication has to occur quickly and without long drawn out explanation to soothe the feelings of the person being communicated with, and it's not a big deal. Are people so fragile that they can only be spoken to in gentle words with careful long explanations and see anything else as being rude or inappropriate and take offence.

To be honest those who complain about these petty things and who genuinely take offence about them and dwell in them and are upset by them, seem to me to be people with low self esteem who somehow bolster their self esteem by being aggressive or complaining and hunting out battles to get involved in, where really none exists. Everyone else would just walk away and forget an incident like this.

If you think some signage would help, then by all means send an email to the school office with the helpful suggestion, but not as part of a complaint.

my2bundles · 13/05/2019 14:48

Toomuchtoold. If your little scenario had any truth the teacher wouldn't have needed to shout for quiet in the first place.

WombatChocolate · 13/05/2019 14:59

I conclude by saying that if this is the worst thing that happens to you this week, the. Life is not going so badly for you. Perhaps think about that and consider all the things that people have to face which are genuinely bad treatment and worthy of complaint, and perhaps that will give you some perspective.

Don't look to take offence easily, nor to find things to complain about or feel aggrieved about and save your outrage for things which actually matter. Don't think you are being it down all the time by other people and treated poorly and need to fight back against it - it is a misperceptions thing which is going on, if you always feel that people are talking down to you or trying to get one over on you - people really aren't. If you feel that way especially about people in seeming positions of power or feel they speak down to you or don't accord you the respect you deserve, again it's likely to be a misperceptions thing if you are regularly feeling this and often feel a bit angry and cross or embarrassed by interactions with those people. Recognise it for what it is.

clairemcnam · 13/05/2019 15:11

wombat I think some people do see life as a perpetual battle and that the world is out to get them/against them.

ilovesooty · 13/05/2019 15:22

No one likes being shouted at and it's natural to feel briefly annoyed by such an incident.

It seems too trivial to be worthy of a complaint though. Why dwell on something like this and allow yourself to be upset?