To think if this T shirt were the other way round, we’d never hear the end of it

[HermioneWeasley]

Spotted by someone over 6 foot at a women’s day march.

If it said “kill all trans women” the wearer would (rightly) be arrested for inciting violence, but I have seen women defending their right to wear it because they were “driven to it”.

Like men are driven to kill women all the time.

No doubt our posts will be deleted in a few years as science catches up with fantasy

And 1 + 1 does not = 3 regardless of what Big Mother Brother says.

@Divgirl2 I know the thread has moved on but surely it would be ‘kill TERF’ if it was meant to be about radical feminism, and not radical feminists.

I'm into trans maths and am shocked and hurtbyvthat statement

I did actually start a trans maths thread a little while ago on that basis

Divgirl2

I don't agree with the t-shirt but "kill the terf" to me would indicate they want to kill the idealism behind terfs, not the terfs themselves

How would you interpret a slogan that said 'Kill the trans'?

WTAF is a female penis.....

How would you interpret a slogan that said 'Kill the trans'?

'Or Kill the Tranny'

Well you have been deleted for it so.....

That literally means fuckall on here

A penis attached to a woman of course. Did gcse biology teach you nothing?
:o

WTAF is a female penis.....

A fallacy. (Phallusy?)

Groan

WTAF is a female penis.....

Saw this on IWD on Twitter. A picture paints a thousand words.

This...

pickledlimes

Your post is still there

sackrifice

'Phallusy'

It isn't. You can see my post prior to that is gone.

I saw a post that had some cup cakes with the decorations in the shape of vaginas.
One person berated them for not including transwo men in the cup cakes.
The cup cake maker apologised and said they would 'do better next time'.

Because there were no cup cakes in the shape of penises.

In other news giraffes are not horses. Frogs are not mammals and dogs are not wolves.

Every day a school day Limes

I don't agree with the t-shirt but "kill the terf" to me would indicate they want to kill the idealism behind terfs, not the terfs themselves

Dear God; the lengths some people will go to, to excuse and minimise bigotry. Can anyone imagine the equivalent conversation about a 'Kill the N*r' T-shirt? Presumably @Divgirl2 would say:

'Oh, well I don't think he really wants to kill all the nrs, just nr ideology. I mean, I'm not a fan of that T-shirt but you can see his point.'

This isn't some marginal case, where the right to freedom of expression is at issue- it's clearly incitement to violence against women.

"I don't agree with the t-shirt but "kill the terf" to me would indicate they want to kill the idealism behind terfs, not the terfs themselves"

That's about as convincing a defence as this.

OK. I really do appreciate that I am a sad pedant who is completely missing the (very valid) point, but I can't help it:

In other news giraffes are not horses. Yep.

Frogs are not mammals Also fine.

and dogs are not wolves. Erm, they are. Dogs are a subspecies of Canis lupus.

Also sprouts, cauliflower, kale and broccoli are all just types of cabbage.

Sorry but even bigger pedant incoming...

Dogs descended from an ancient type of wolf that is not thought to exist now. So wolves and dogs both descended from a common ancestor – dogs are not a member of the wolf family that exists now.

Some scientists classify them as Canis lupus familiaris ie a subspecies of the wolf family (that includes the extinct wolves)

Some classify them as another species, Canis familiaris.

It's probably fair to say they are on their way from being wolves to being a separate species.