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Why are people still deluding themselves about Michael Jackson??

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waxahatchee · 26/02/2019 18:54

If any grown man I know invited children to sleep in his bed with him there would be absolutely no question about what was going on. I am sure that most people would agree, why are so many people still deluding themselves about this?? Makes me so cross, why do they even play his music on the radio??

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Aeroflotgirl · 08/03/2019 12:58

I think the parents thought that MJ is a famous popstar who loves kids, they are safe with him, so none of the usual red flags were raised. It was not like he was a shifty creep in a mac, he's fooled a lot of people, a wolf in sheeps' clothing.

Aeroflotgirl · 08/03/2019 13:37

Just to add, if MJ did innocently want to spend time with boys and was a decent man, he would have wanted them to be chaperoned by their parents, and would have no problem with this, but he wanted them alone for long periods of time. Even suggesting to Wades parents that she go off for a week, and leave her son there with him, and she refused thank goodness. Who in their right mind, does things like this.

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 08/03/2019 13:38

People are now coming out in the media confirming that MJ is a Paedophile, including his own sister.

Not quite true - the tabloids are regurgitating footage from 1993 when LaToya denounced her brother. She later said she was lying because her abusive husband Jack Gordon, who called the press conference, forced her to. Gordon claimed La Toya had proof which she was prepared to disclose for a fee of $500,000. A bidding war between US and UK tabloids began, but fell through when they realized that her revelations were not what she had claimed them to be. According to La Toya, Gordon threatened to have siblings Michael and Janet killed if she didn't follow his orders. (source: wiki)

It's the truth of the lie again but casts doubt on her credibility - if she were to come forward now and repeat what she said back then, she will be publicly lynched in the same way Wade, James and Oprah have had backlash from the fandom. By the same token, she claims to be a victim of abuse who lied out of self-preservation then recanted, so no different from Wade then - except that her lie would have vindicated the boys and her truth doesn't whereas his is the opposite. I doubt whether she will retract again now though.

I don't know which other people have 'confirmed' - I know Corey has said he can only confirm he wasn't abused but nor will he tear down those that said they were.

animaginativeusername · 08/03/2019 13:40

Just reading the list of items found is enough to recognise guilt, until then was never sure but felt that MJ was guilty somehow.

Aeroflotgirl · 08/03/2019 13:42

RageAgainst maybe she was threatened by MJ who knows. Now we have statements from the abused, and I wonder who else will come forward now that Wade and James have, and evidence from MJ home, child porn art with his and the boys finger prints on them.

Aeroflotgirl · 08/03/2019 13:43

Amongst other things.

Aeroflotgirl · 08/03/2019 13:44

Wade and James said that they were threatened if they did not testify and if they told their parents, how many others were threatened in this way by MJ.

Bellasorellaa · 08/03/2019 13:46

not a fan

but why is a documentary proof to you?
they have lied and lied but yet you still believe liars?
if you are a true victim you dont need to lie ever.

and it was his bed it was his bedroom which was the size of an apartment

Bellasorellaa · 08/03/2019 13:47

was not his bed

Bellasorellaa · 08/03/2019 13:48

most investigated man in america even by FBI and his computers were clean, never been able to bring ANY evidence other than that of liars

yes so believable

PickledLimes · 08/03/2019 13:51

Again, I keep seeing fans referencing a ten year investigation into the allegations but according to the FBI's own website they only offered some assistance to California Law Enforcement Agencies when requested.
" Between 1993 and 1994 and separately between 2004 and 2005, Jackson was investigated by California law enforcement agencies for possible child molestation. He was acquitted of all such charges. The FBI provided technical and investigative assistance to these agencies during the cases."

That is not a ten year FBI led investigation into the allegations.

HowlsMovingBungalow · 08/03/2019 13:51

What has his computers got to do with it? The 'internet' back in the early 90s was pretty dire...

ColeHawlins · 08/03/2019 13:59

@Bellasorellaa you're making yourself sound ridiculous.

"Most investigates man in America"? Of course he isn't,

Aeroflotgirl · 08/03/2019 14:01

They lied because they had to! They were threatened. Can you tell me 100% that MJ never hurt any boys, no you cannot. The court case proves nothing, the testimonies by the boys were not accurate due to MJ threatening them. After seeing those men speak, I have no doubt in my mind who the guilty party is. What internet in the 1990s, it was still very rudimentary.

Tinyteatime · 08/03/2019 14:07

I’m just watching the documentary. Why the fuck did their parents leave them to sleep in the same room as him?! They don’t seem like stupid people. What the actual fuck.

Bellasorellaa · 08/03/2019 14:07

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Bellasorellaa · 08/03/2019 14:10

aero were is the proof they were threatened?
its easy to claim someone threatend you

why no cctv, images, anything?
why didnt he touch mackolie (whatever his name is home alone kid) and gary coleman?

rkelly there is video evidence
jimmy salville there is video evidence of him being creepy
why not MJ?

WHY LIE!

HowlsMovingBungalow · 08/03/2019 14:11

The Frothers have rocked up.

BorsetshireBlew · 08/03/2019 14:12

Wow. I've just watched the documentary. I have absolutely zero doubt that Michael Jackson was a predatory and calculating paedophile.

HowlsMovingBungalow · 08/03/2019 14:14

Gary Coleman??

Don't you mean Emmanuel Lewis?

Hmm
Bellasorellaa · 08/03/2019 14:14

where can i watch the documentry?
I have seen the others defending and exposing micheal and i base my opinion off the old docs.

the new docs i think is bs because the man been dead for ten years and its easy to lie on the dead

ColeHawlins · 08/03/2019 14:15

why no cctv, images, anything?
Why didnt he touch mackolie (whatever his name is home alone kid) and gary coleman?

Are you seriously asking why he didn't have CCTV cameras installed in his own bedroom to record his sexual offending?

And you can't work out why wealthy, famous children might have escaped abuse in favour of poorer children with less influential parents?

Are you for real?

Bellasorellaa · 08/03/2019 14:15

howismoving
no i meant gary coleman, the little black man who died recently and was on tape defending him.
see half of you dont even know the cases details

Bellasorellaa · 08/03/2019 14:16

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ColeHawlins · 08/03/2019 14:16

where can i watch the documentry?
I have seen the others defending and exposing micheal and i base my opinion off the old docs.

Good idea. Go and watch it. It's on the Channel four app/ catch up site.

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