Why are people still deluding themselves about Michael Jackson??

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If any grown man I know invited children to sleep in his bed with him there would be absolutely no question about what was going on. I am sure that most people would agree, why are so many people still deluding themselves about this?? Makes me so cross, why do they even play his music on the radio??

And read this summary :)

The thing we have to remember is that Michael Jackson was unique. He wasn't an ordinary bloke
What a complete load of shite.

Oh Dorothy, Dorothy, Dorothy 😔
Really?
Do you have children?

There has never been and will never be another person like him

Thank God for that

I feel you have cast a cloud on The Golden Girls with your username coupled with your opinions

Yes I have children. I never would have allowed them to be in the same situation that those children were because it was inappropriate. No matter how cool ir fun a sleepover at MJ’s house would have been. As I said above. Doesn’t mean that anything malicious happened though.

All I am saying, is based on FACTS, he is an innocent man and we should treat him as such.

@FeelingLazy, you’d describe MJ as normal and ordinary would you?

Dorothy are you saying that you truly believe he didn’t sexually abuse these boys?

Sorry benidorm. Not my intention 😁 Dorothy would probably think I’m chatting a load of tosh too. Bowing out before I get flamed to death. Just wanted to bring another perspective. Based on fact, I don’t think he’s a pedophile. There we go.

Ps, he was certainly talented but he wasn’t a God

I notice all the MJ obsessives only focus on discrediting Robson. What about Safechuck? They don't go near him because it's a lot harder to discredited his story. Yes, he testified for Michael but was still a child at the time and still in his thrall. He refused in 2005. He never changed his story as they are so fond of saying about robson. He is clearly a man deeply affected by trauma. I believe him

Face facts, Jackson was a paedophile and child abuser. It's worrying the some of those defending him have kids tbh.

@DorothyZbornack
Well said! I am with you on this one..
Wade Robson swore under oath at the MJ trial all them years ago saying NOTHING sexual ever happened. Two mens words against a dead man in a very 1 sided story which of course this so called doco is made to look as bad for MJ as they could possible make it.
I feel for MJs children having to deal with this

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Nobody thinks any money was involved in what was said in court?

I mean, he wouldn’t be scrabbling down the back of the sofa, he was worth about £400 million.

Well he "forgave" a loan he had given to the Safechucks for a new house after James testified in the 90s. Even his mother admits now that it looks pretty bad

I still blame the parents
You just DO NOT allow your kids in these situations!
Yes, he was a paedophile, so he’s certainly not blameless but come on!

For whatever reasons, they essentially handed their 7 yr old children to him with their blessing

Because he was famous, a legend, it was an honour etc etc etc etc ad effing nauseum, who truly thinks that’s ok?!?

Not RTWT but I have been thinking about this all day.

What MJ did (if he did it, I have no evidence either way but my gut says he did) was wrong, no question. But did he know that?

He was fucked up, badly, from a very young age. He never knew what normal, as it is for the rest of us, was. He was 5 years old when he became one of the most famous people in the world. Was exploited, abused and spoiled in equal measure for his whole childhood. This continued in his adult life by people who he trusted but where only after using him to make their own fotunes. He clearly suffered from retarded emotional development.

I am not for one moment suggesting that this make anything he did ok, it wasnt.

I have just been wondering what his definition of "ok" or "normal" was. Nothing about him or his whole life was normal. It started with his father and ended with sycophants, all of whom exploited him for their own ends. His life was a tragedy that will cause ripples for many years yet.

Not a fan btw and preparing for a flaming.

I reckon what you say is very true Pyong
But my question it dost persist
Wtf were the parents THINKING!?!”

What those boys went through was horrible. What were their parents were crazy letting them stay in the first place. I'm hoping, in part 2, they tell us exactly why they allowed it, they said nothing substantial tonight.

Well yes, I cant help thinking that they were yet another group of people hitching their wagon to MJ in the hope of some sort of pay off and where prepared to use their kids in order to get it. But did they really think that the kids would be abused? I find it hard to believe that they did.

They were mercenary yes and exploitative, but I really hope that they were not aware that they were simply pimping their kids out :(

Can I just ask why you think he is a pedophile when he has been so intensely investigated and found innocent? Seriously, could you imagine being found innocent of a crime and still being labeled as such a horrible thing. They tried him against 14 counts and he still was found completely innocent.

Do you actually think it is more likely that a 10 year FBI investigation, intense questioning, a grand jury, two raids etc all got it wrong. That every single other person that spent time with or worked for MJ are lying to protect him.

Or could it possibily be, that these two men are lying. These two men, who actually owe the MJ estate legal fees from past failed law suits, are abusing the #metoo movement for whatever callous or bitterness fueled purpose it is. Money or revenge. Who knows. Maybe both.

If you’ve read all the facts about MJ and then Robson & Safechuck, and you still think he is a Pedophile, then at least you’ve made a well informed opinion I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

I have just been wondering what his definition of "ok" or "normal" was. Nothing about him or his whole life was normal

Exactly as I was trying to explain, perhaps not so concisely 😬 There will never be another example of his life and no one can imagine what his life was like. From a sociological perspective it’s quite fascinating really.

Dorothy you are being incredibly naive.
Do you really believe that an FBI investigation etc was flawless?
Have you heard of corruption?
Are you at all aware that very wealthy people are able to ‘get away’ with things you wouldn’t believe because of money, fame and influence?
Do you have any experience of Federal Law?