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If you had to choose would you prefer a Corbyn Government/soft or no Brexit or a Hard Brexit with Tories staying in power?

216 replies

mothertruck3r · 28/01/2019 12:20

If the choice was between a hard Brexit (but the Tories staying in power) or soft/no Brexit and the Tory vote collapsing and Corbyn getting into power, which do you think would be more damaging to the UK and to you on a personal level?

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BorisBogtrotter · 30/01/2019 09:18

" he is and will run this country into the ground. We have a contingency plan and thankfully the means to do it. "

That's funny, Corbyn's fiscal policy looks extremely similar to that of Germany and the other northern European Social democracies.

They don't appear to have been run into the ground.

mobyduck · 30/01/2019 09:20

empathize

BigFatGoalie · 30/01/2019 19:28

That's funny, Corbyn's fiscal policy looks extremely similar to that of Germany and the other northern European Social democracies.

Corbyn’s inability to listen to reason or work with other MPs is what will be his downfall. He is loathed by many members of the public and cannot see the wood for the trees, constantly pushing his own agenda. Teresa May for all her failings was given a poisoned chalice, and has been trying her damndest to do the best with the hand she’s been given. Corbyn believes it his way or no way at all. He will not listen to council. I firmly believe he will be the worst possible person to run this country.

williteverend99 · 30/01/2019 19:33

That‘s a bit like asking do you want your right leg chopped off or your left. Neither is an attractive option. Both will detract massively from your quality of life.

User758172 · 30/01/2019 19:38

There’s nothing so frightening as the idea of the Marxist Corbyn in No.10. He’d do more damage to our economy than Brexit. However weak and divided the current government, they have to stay in power at all costs.

Oblomov19 · 30/01/2019 19:39

I'd take a no Brexit. But we aren't going to get that, are we?

And a replaceable Corbyn.

chocolateishappiness · 30/01/2019 20:02

. Teresa May for all her failings was given a poisoned chalice, and has been trying her damndest to do the best with the hand she’s been given

She wasn't "given" a poisoned chalice, she fought for it, grabbed it and has run off with it whilst refusing to listen to anyone else.

She campaigned to remain and has always been a remainer. She's doing a brilliant job of making sure we don't ever leave 🤷‍♀️

Vicky1990 · 30/01/2019 20:05

Corbyn supports the IRA who killed hundreds of innocent people, supports the regime in Venezuela that has ruined that country and also said they are an example of how a country should be run.
He has caused upset with the Jews, has a vindictive momentum mob to threaten to deselect his MPs who do not follow his agenda, said he would not defend this country with nuclear weapons if we were atacked with them.
Has a bunch of morons on his front bench, one of whom has just been sent to prison, another one who got upset with the BBC question time audience for mocking her, and he himself who couldn't be bothered to dress respectfully at the Remembrance Day ceremony.
I don't care what Theresa May does as long as she keeps Corbyn away from the levers of power.

longtimelurkerhelen · 30/01/2019 20:08

Labour for me too. Tories are evil.

Kokapetl · 30/01/2019 20:16

I'm a bit ambivalent towards Corbin but this is mainly because of his current stance on Brexit. If him being Prime Minister came with guaranteed no Brexit it would be a no brainer for me.

Of course big business would say he'd be bad for the country because his policies would hit their profits and inflated salaries in favour of a greater number of people being able to live secure lives with a chance of happiness.

We would get to keep the NHS, schools would be funded properly, disabled people wouldn't be left to starve after faked assessments etc.

BigFatGoalie · 30/01/2019 20:22

Well said vicky

Justanotherlurker · 30/01/2019 20:28

This is the problem with the brexit, we have labour supporters who are having to use GDP and listen to big business and then in the same breath come out with comments like this:

Of course big business would say he'd be bad for the country because his policies would hit their profits and inflated salaries in favour of a greater number of people being able to live secure lives with a chance of happiness.

The problem isn't cut along political lines, and the so called centrist corbyn supporters need to accept that they are in favour of center right economic solutions.

You can't be opposed to neoliberalism and be pro eu, it is polar opposites, its the center left who would vote for a red roset on a donkey and loudly proclaim their working class credentials that are having the difficulty.

The center right accept the the neoliberal agenda of being in the EU, it isn't them treating politics as a team sport.

Dapplegrey · 30/01/2019 20:45

This only effects 9% of estates, and means that if you inherit £1 million, means you get £860k, an average tax rate of 14%. Sorry that's utterly fair.

Boris did you mean ‘utterly unfair?

Readytorewind · 30/01/2019 21:01

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Justanotherlurker · 30/01/2019 21:14

Looks like Momentum bots are out to defend JC

Mocking her in a racist and derogatory manner

Citation needed for racist manner, we can ignore the derogatory (even though she didn't) in politics as I'm possitve you don't treat tory supporters in anything other than derogatory terms.

And yet some people on these type of threads think it's just astroturfed by Tory/right wing bots.

Vicky1990 · 30/01/2019 21:18

Didnt See anyone else wear a rain coat, disrespectful prat.
Has someone taught him how to sing the national anthem, he didn't know the words a little while ago, and did he wear a poppy on his rain coat fitted with a hood, or was it a parka?.

Readytorewind · 30/01/2019 21:23

I'm not a bot, I'm a social worker. I'm not a member of momentum either but I have personally and professionally been ravaged by conservative policies.

And I don't even want JC as party leader. He's too humbling. I prefer Keir Starmer but honestly, if you are going to spout shit on the internet and come back with a challenge about a raincoat, the country is as fucked as it feels.

Readytorewind · 30/01/2019 21:24

And I don't need a citation for a post on the internet Hmm

WitchesWeb · 30/01/2019 21:29

he has had his comments overblown and taken out of context in order to further Zionism. This isn't anti semitism. Only an idiot swallows this

ODFOD

He has caused upset with the Jewish community as much as you want to pretend he hasn't.

KennDodd · 30/01/2019 21:30

No Brexit and Corbyn government. Corbyn wouldn't last long and we could put the Brexit mess behind us. Also, if Corbyn really fucked things up, we/my children could leave the country as we'd still have our rights of FOM as EU citizens.

User758172 · 30/01/2019 21:39

Mocking her in a racist and derogatory manner

No one was mocking or racist towards her. She throws these accusations around whenever she’s rightfully hauled over the coals for her woeful performance. A spectacularly unintelligent woman.

User758172 · 30/01/2019 21:41

@Vicky1990

Well said!

bananaramaspyjamas · 30/01/2019 21:45

It would be a huge relief if Corbyn would just resign and we could have someone half decent who was a remainer leading the Labour Party. I think they would win any election easily if that was the circumstances.

But as things stand I'd vote Tory over Corbyn. He'd just make the whole mess 100 X worse.

Lexilooo · 30/01/2019 21:46

I'd vote for Lord Buckethead if he could stop Brexit.

A government is for a maximum of 4 years, and can be ousted sooner brexit is forever.

HateIsNotGood · 30/01/2019 22:03

I rather liked JC before, but then I always like a bit of Marxist critique with a hint of Peaciness thrown in; chuck in some massive enviro within a structure of oderly admin/book-keepy/policy docs and I'd sign-up for that partay. With some Burchillian Chaos on the Side.

But being just a Critique really isn't enough, so JC has disappointed me. My sway was/is WA - uncharacteristically sensible of me.

I'm really not sure how the UK/EU Backstop impasse will play out but I doubt doubt shouting out that you are waiting for the other side to "blink" or "non, no, never, nyet" will we discuss anything more ever about that WA specific paragraph ever again, ever is very helpful either.