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AIBU?

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To expect parents to turn up on time for dinner?

217 replies

Journea · 20/01/2019 19:23

It’s my birthday and my DH and I cooked lunch for us, our three children, my parents, brother, SIL and 12 month old niece. Long story short but my parents are constantly late whenever we cook (we cook and host a lot of times throughout the year.) We’d told everyone we were eating at 4pm. Brother and family turn up nice early - all good here. Parents turn up at 4:30pm. No apology. They just come in and sit down. OH had held off serving up until they arrived but was annoyed as he kept muttering under his breath and to me. In the end, it all came out and he told my parents a few home truths about how he’s sick of being walked on, expected to cook dinner for everyone and them not having the decency to turn up on time or say sorry. He was angry.
Anyhow, DM 5 minutes later storms out, saying she’s going home and slams our front door on her way out, leaving DF here. My brother then receives a text saying to tell my DH to remember that she gave us £10k when my Nanny passed away and how she’s treated us to meals out over the years and that she never wants to speak to him again. So my first AIBU is that does giving people money warrant an excuse for constant lateness and lack of manners?
I received a text message saying that we need to remember that she suffers from fibromyalgia and that being late is part of her everyday life. Tea was at 4pm - IMO, plenty of time to be able to get up and dressed and travel 20 minutes down the road. She had also now text saying she ‘doesn’t need us lot’ who I guess she refers to us lot being myself, my DH and our three children.
What would you do? Was DH being unreasonable to expect them to turn up or at least say sorry?

OP posts:
RedTulip86 · 20/01/2019 23:09

Oh, and FB defriending- good riddance Grin

SandAndSea · 20/01/2019 23:11

So sorry to read that all this kicked off on your birthday. Flowers

I can understand why your dh confronted her. I am also not surprised that she chose your special day to behave like this. (Classic narc behaviour ime.)

The good news is that she's been flushed out. (I know this might not seem like good news.)

I would ignore as much of what she's said as you can - the same way you would a toddler shouting, "I hate you!" When I say "ignore" I mean, don't take it on.

I also think you should keep the money - it's yours!

Let her cool down. Take some time to think about what you want.

Awittyusernameishardtofind · 20/01/2019 23:23

She treats you, hubby and DF awfully by the sounds of it. I know you say you put up with it for the kids sake but honestly how long until this impacts on them? How long until they do something to upset her (which seems easily done) and she says she couldn’t give a shit about them either? Do any of you really need that? She’s an adult. It’s not down to you to make this right. Maybe DH didn’t handle things brilliantly but her behaviour had been disgraceful. Leave her be. Assuming the petulant cow hasn’t blocked your number by now

Awittyusernameishardtofind · 20/01/2019 23:24

And yeah money wise your gran would have wanted you to have it.

ReflectentMonatomism · 20/01/2019 23:55

There is no excuse for adults to both (a) be late and (b) not apologise. People that do both should be made into the social pariahs that they clearly want to be.

I’ve known, past tense, a few people who are always late because “that’s how they are” or “it’s so hard to be on time” or “I’m so relaxed”. If you’re working with them, get them sacked or get yourself moved to a group whose manager is willing to take appropriate action with piss-takers. If they’re friends, get rid. If they’re family, even easier to get rid as you never even liked them to start with.

As others have said, people who are late and do not apologise are either narcissists who believe themselves to be more valuable than others and that therefore their time is similarly valuable, or idiots. There is no third category.

ReflectentMonatomism · 20/01/2019 23:57

Oh, and the people who say your should enable late fuckers by lying to them about plans? That’s exactly what they want: other people to runaround dealing with their deliberate failure to behave like reasonable adults.

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BackforGood · 20/01/2019 23:59

Do I bother to make contact and talk it out (but I truly believe she would never understand why DH was so upset) or just move on with my life and cut her out?

I wouldn't do either. It would just fan the flames of her drama.
I would just let her stew for a bit, and then, when it is one of your dcs birthdays, let her know they are welcome to come for a birthday tea, but not pander to her - just eat when it suits you / when people who know how to behave, are there. Remind her it is your dc's birthday and you won't tolerate her making a drama out of it like she did on your birthday.

5foot5 · 21/01/2019 00:00

DM has text to say; I could not care a shit. Leave me alone. I am fed up with people thinking I am to blame. One day I am just going to disapear and leave you all to chat about your petty little lives. I'll turn my back on the lot of your squabbles and be out of it all. Good riddance.

To which I think the best response is "OK. See yah."

pollyglot · 21/01/2019 00:01

I'm 100% with 5foot5 on this one.

nespresso1664 · 21/01/2019 00:05

Your mum sounds like mine and I have learnt not to bother just cos shes your mother. Life's too short. She does the same thing with money gifts to guilt trip - for me it is my uni fees. I've said I'll happily pay back every penny gifted if she'd like. Cow. it's not that hard to apologise if in wrong.

Totally with your dh.

scaryteacher · 21/01/2019 00:54

My Mum took offence at something my ds (then about 20) said to her when she was visiting one summer. I was driving her back to the UK and got treated to a journey of stony silence and the occasional hissy fit. It takes me 2 days to drive her back, and on the third, when I left to return home, I got a curt goodbye, and not a thank you for driving her back, for picking up travel and hotel costs.

Normally we speak daily (several times if she is bored), and this time I heard nothing for 3 weeks. I did phone one of her friends to check she was OK, but was told she was fine, but was having an almighty sulk. I explained why, and her friend said her being called out was long overdue.

I left it to Mum to phone me, and eventually she did; no apology, just a resumption of 'normal' relations.

The gist OP is to leave her to call you, which she will when she has stopped feeling like the last of the Christian martyrs, and acknowledged to herself that she has been a prize idiot. I have got slightly firmer with my mother since then; and I do call her out at times when she is being stupid about something.

Celticrose · 21/01/2019 00:59

To be honest if I behaved like that my Dh would have gone without me and left me at home. He hates being late for anything so we are always the first to arrive. Maybe that is what your your DF needs to do

Returning2thesceneofthecrime · 21/01/2019 01:50

YANBU

You told them 2ish for lunch at 4. They arrived at 4.30. Two and a half hours late isn’t just late, it is fucking rude.

Your DH shouldn’t have been mumbling under his breath about it, that is also rude. But.....I can’t say I blame him because this is part of a pattern of behaviour by your mum and just happened to be the straw that broke the camel’s back.

In your shoes, I would ignore all messages from your mum. Don’t pander to her. If and when you are ready, contact her about a completely separate issue/event/whatever and pretend this didn’t happen. If she raises it again at that stage, address it head on. Treat her as you would a toddler - deal with it immediately and then move on.

I’m sorry it happened on your birthday. 💐

diddl · 21/01/2019 07:22

Your mum sounds awful.

Must be tempting to text back-"you are to blame".

I agree to not respond-leave it up to her to stew in her own viciousness.

Whether you want to carry on seeing your dad in the meantime is another matter.

AdoreTheBeach · 21/01/2019 07:39

My mother is constantly late to everything. Very upsetting. She just doesn’t care. Missed flights, tonnes of missed appointments and I would never go on holiday or days out with her again (most embarrassing was a day clack your, had one hour in a village, she decided she’d like to stay longer looking around and made the whole coach wait an extra 45 minutes). If we mee st a restaurant, we now sit and order at agreed time- and eat.

In-laws we’re opposite and always cane early! VERY early. Not good when you race around with last minute cleaning, tidying (messy family but I’m the one judged) so they always seemed to arrive when I’m in the shower. So I started giving them a time an hour later than I wanted them.

However, very rude to have had an argument about it during your birthday meal. For late people, just start without them. Also, this is where you’re invitations need to be clear. Arrive at 3:30 and the food will be served at 4:00. At 4:00, serve the food. If they arrive late, say sorry but we made sure to tell you what time to arrive and when food would be served. Onus on them.

In your situation, DM bringing up what she’s done for you is also wrong.

Your DH is wrong to create or exacerbate problem during your birthday meal and of course your DM is wrong too.

mumeeee · 21/01/2019 07:44

OP after reading your updates I've changed my opinion. As you told them to arrive at
2 pm and you would be eating at 4. Then it was incredibly rude to not get there until 4.30. Your DH was right to be annoyed.
Your DM doesn't sound like she is a very nice person and it looks like your DF knew they were going to be late because of her. He could have let you know before hand.
Would it be possible to invite your DF to things without your DM?

DontdoitDoris · 21/01/2019 07:59

OP FlowersCake
This is the sort of thing my M would do on my birthday -its to put you on your place and make it all about her .
Being late to everything on purpose is about control , we all know the odd person who hares in at the last minute,out of breath and Blush at their lateness but this is putting their needs above anyone else,even their own daughter on her birthday.
You might find The Stately Homes thread helpful (or not)

Aprilshowersarecomingsoon · 21/01/2019 08:00

I am nc with my dm. If she can't to be pleasant to me why would I trust her with my precious dc?
Your dm isn't mature enough to have a grown up relationship it seems. Mine was similar. Once flounced off to get a 2 hour bus home because mil turned up unexpectedly at my house! !
Enjoy the peace is my advice.
And have yourself another birthday meal next week end with dh +dc.

RestingBitchFaced · 21/01/2019 08:21

We always eat at around 4pm on a Sunday. We have a late breakfast around 11ish, skip lunch, then are ready for a late Sunday lunch by then. I would just ignore and let her sulk OP, she will hopefully get over it when she's calmed down. In future, if she's not there then just plate up without her, and keep her some to warm up.

RestingBitchFaced · 21/01/2019 08:22

I also agree that it wasn't your Dh's place to say anything you her, that should have been your job

Annasgirl · 21/01/2019 08:24

Oh my God, I cannot believe your husband chastised your mother😱 if your DM is always late, do what most normal people do in these situations, pretend your meal
Is at 3. Or serve it at 5. Your DH was being VU - actually he was very rude.

Annasgirl · 21/01/2019 08:25

Sorry just read your update. Yes DM was rude but so was DH.

MarthasGinYard · 21/01/2019 08:25

'It’s quite normal to arrive 30 mins after a meal invite, it’s not the norm to eat straight away.'

Agree....kind of

Was it an afternoon tea thingy as that's incredibly early

Pissedoffdotcom · 21/01/2019 08:26

It's interesting how many peoplr are willing to pander to consistent lateness when there is no good reason. They're grown ups fgs, they need treating as such. I personally don't see the issue with DH calling her out because it is him doing the cooking!

MarthasGinYard · 21/01/2019 08:28

Apols Op

Just read updates

Sounds like she's extremely petty and has a few underlying issues.

Some birthday 😩

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