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Twitter hosts paedophiles- AIBU to think this should change?

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SmileEachDay · 05/01/2019 10:10

pedrapapeletesoura.wordpress.com/2017/09/14/map-starting-guide/

A growing number of MAP (minor attracted people) accounts are forming a network on Twitter. There is a push to normalise and legitimise being sexually attracted to children. The “guide” I have linked is chilling, as are the accounts with MAP tags - they often have AOA in their bio...their “age of attraction”. So AOA 6mnths-4 years is a sexual attraction to children of that age.

Twitter is a huge business, with enormous power - they could, if they chose, take a stand against this.

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kaytee87 · 05/01/2019 10:17

Envy not envy

userschmoozer · 05/01/2019 10:25

This isn't a new problem and they still haven't sorted it out - what does that tell you?
They can delete gender critical accounts fast enough.

joanmcc · 05/01/2019 10:29

You'll forgive me for not clicking a blog link saying map "(minor attracted people?) starting guide", but jesus that's not good.

SmileEachDay · 05/01/2019 10:32

I agree it’s not a new problem - I think what is “new” is the linking with LGBT - anyone remember PIE?

It seems to be swept up in the current TRA agenda also.

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Sportsnight · 05/01/2019 10:35

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WinnieFosterTether · 05/01/2019 10:38

Of course it should change. Has anyone started a petition about it? Twitter obviously doesn't care about the views of women or Mumsnetters but I imagine if parliament or Congress declared an opinion, Jack might have to take notice.

SmileEachDay · 05/01/2019 11:33

I’m not aware of a petition. I’m interested to see how many people in MN are even aware of this on such a mainstream platform.

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KeepSmiling80 · 05/01/2019 11:40

Saying a man can't be a woman is thought crime.
Publicly announcing you want to abuse children is fine.

Be a man who says he's a woman with a fetish for inserting tampons into young girls and you can threaten women who say you're a danger. Progressive.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 05/01/2019 12:01

I think using a description like 'minor-attracted people' is normalising in itself. I'll continue to say paedophile.

Baconmaket · 05/01/2019 12:09

I don't really want to click the link to be honest because I'm sensitive to that kind of thing and don't want to read anything in detail.

It depends what the purpose of their group is. If people have an attraction to children and want help and support for this and have formed a community to provide that help and support then that's a good thing. Pretending that no one is attracted to children is not a good thing.

If someone has an attraction to children they can't help and never intend to act on it they deserve compassion and help. If on the other hand they are implying there's nothing wrong with acting on these impulses than that is vile and should be shut down.

SmileEachDay · 05/01/2019 12:17

Display - I completely agree. I absolutely think the manipulation of language is part of the issue.

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Oldstyle · 05/01/2019 12:19

I agree Display - it's all part of a wider campaign to normalise both paedophilia and fetishes. I've seen people on Twitter attacked for 'kink-shaming' if they call this out and a number of high-profile feminists have actually been thrown off Twitter for naming one particularly revolting TIM who openly states his interest in young girls.
I'm also old enough to remember the extent to which PIE (Paedophile Information Exchange) infiltrated the left in the 1970s. At one point Liberty was defending them - ditto Peter Tatchell. Part of the problem is that Twitter is mostly staffed by young men. Women are neither respected nor represented.
It's genuinely worrying, particularly given the sexualisation of young people, the easy availability of porn, and the erosion of girl's rights to single-sex spaces.

MissionItsPossible · 05/01/2019 12:22

It depends what the purpose of their group is. If people have an attraction to children and want help and support for this and have formed a community to provide that help and support then that's a good thing. Pretending that no one is attracted to children is not a good thing.

At a push, in a professional setting, I could kind of agree with that, however, Twitter is not the place for that and I haven’t clicked on the link but i hazard a guess they are sharing fantasies rather than helping each other.

DitaVonPeas · 05/01/2019 12:24

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SmileEachDay · 05/01/2019 12:24

Mission
No, the link is cleverer than that. It s couched in quasi academic language - it’s a blueprint for how to justify sexual attraction to children. “They are not sick, just born in the wrong society”

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KonekoBasu · 05/01/2019 12:25

It depends what the purpose of their group is. If people have an attraction to children and want help and support for this and have formed a community to provide that help and support then that's a good thing.

I'm doubtful that is the goal, or that if it is it would remain so.

This isn't new though. There were Usenet groups way back when.

DitaVonPeas · 05/01/2019 12:26

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Tartyflette · 05/01/2019 12:27

Bacon I have to say I am suspicious of the agenda of groups like this, it feel much more like the purpose is to attempt to normalise the issue and also to link up with other groups in the LGBT umbrella and find possible allies there.
I’ll continue to say paedophile too.
YADNBU.

TotesEmoshTerri · 05/01/2019 12:29

Twitter is really just full of odd balls and big mouths isn't it Confused

Baconmaket · 05/01/2019 12:30

At a push, in a professional setting, I could kind of agree with that, however, Twitter is not the place for that and I haven’t clicked on the link but i hazard a guess they are sharing fantasies rather than helping each other.

The latter is true and why I didn't click on the link for fear it would be exchanging fantasies I don't want to read about. I do think there should be an availability of professional help for peadophiles who want help to make sure they're not a danger to children but twitter probably isn't the place for it.

HermioneWeasley · 05/01/2019 12:32

That account is sickening. It’s mind bending that twitter do nothing about this but ban women for using the same name that a man uses for himself. It makes you wonder whether the people making the decisions have a vested interest

GCAcademic · 05/01/2019 12:33

Dita - there is an attempt by some paedophiles to have themselves included in the LGBTQ+ umbrella, with the aim of acceptance of their sexual orientation. This is happening now and has happened in the past (PIE). There are people in the gay community who are saying this is happening, not just MN posters.

MissionItsPossible · 05/01/2019 12:33

@SmileEachDay
Ah ok, tbh I glossed over the address of the link, I thought it was a Twitter link to one of the accounts you were talking about. I still don’t want to click on it though.

TotesEmoshTerri · 05/01/2019 12:43

There are people in the gay community who are saying this is happening, not just MN posters.

Historically there has been some crossover. It has not been particularly unusual for gay men to groom teenagers even if there is no physical relationship.

The England section on en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty is very illuminating and says public schools were a hotbed of this behaviour even up till the 70s.

SmileEachDay · 05/01/2019 12:45

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