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To return all of the money

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peppersprayfirst · 02/01/2019 17:30

Hi, hoping for some advice.

Background is I'm 21, live at home with my mum and dad. My mum is amazing. My dad has always been IMO and in dsis's emotionally and financially abusive towards her. He has pushed pretty much all of her family and friends away throughout their lives together, new friends come and then quickly go for some reason or another due to the way he is. She never felt that she could leave because she was a SAHM and did bits and bobs to help with his business rather than formal employment.

I have always worked and saved and am doing quite well and getting together a deposit for a house. My mum and dad had a second home abroad which they recently sold, with the proceeds they gave me £6k to go towards my savings. Obviously I was very grateful for this, but knowing how he can be I was a little wary. I am very independent and don't like relying on people for things too much, especially money.

They now have decided that they want to buy another (different) house abroad and want to retire there and live there permanently. They have made it very clear me living at home is a massive inconvenience to them because they can't sell this house. They had me later in life after a struggle to conceive again so I know I was very much wanted, but surely they thought about this part? I feel like I'm in the way, but I can't afford to live alone yet and me and my partner aren't ready to live together just yet.

They are going away again soon and are leaving me to look after the house and pets which is tricky as unlike them I work full time and am out of the house all day. The boiler is currently broken and you have to turn a knob to get the heating/hot water to work, it's been this way about 2 months now but they haven't got it fixed. Last night I went to turn the thing and it made a funny noise and the hot water didn't work like it usually has been. I said to dad I think it might be getting more broken and I'm worried it will break when they are away and I won't know what to do. Dad complained because he 'has no money' I said 'you can't pay to fix the boiler but you can pay for a second home!!?'
I haven't really seen him since but I just got in from work now and he mentioned the boiler is working when you release the pressure thing and that I must have been 'mistaken' last night but said it in a nasty way as if I was making it up? I just said 'oh right, I wasn't mistaken though it was being funny lastnight'. Then he said 'you know the comment you made lastnight about the second home, it's going to be a first home very soon'. Like a threat😂 I just thought how ridiculous, I'm not like mum you can't intimidate me with stupid remarks I'm stronger than that. I said 'oooooh that really got me' (which sounds stupid written down but wtf do you say to that) he then said well when the boiler breaks when we're away you can pay for it with the 6k I gave you. I thought wow I was waiting for this!! For him to use it against me!! I just said 'have it back I don't want it' he said 'I don't want it back' but really nastily.

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask them to get the boiler fixed, I would be happy to pay toward it. The house is also really damp, there's water marks all over my ceiling because of leaks as it isn't maintained well and all of my clothes and sheet smell strongly of damp I have to use shedloads of unstoppables to get it smelling nice. My mum hates it too, we still try to keep it nice and cosy but mum won't stick up for herself even though she knows he has the money to sort things he just won't use it unless it's something that benefits him.

They are hinting for me to go and live with my boyfriend at his parents house and although I love my boyfriend I think that would put a lot of pressure on us and if something went wrong between us I would have nowhere to go.

Should I just give him the money back? I hate feeling like I owe him something or he has some kind of control over me because of it. However, the money is a big help and will allow me to leave home sooner. I feel so awful that mums had to put up with this for so long. He's not a nice person at all. I don't really want his money.

I realise I am very privileged and there are people much worse off in the world than me. I work with disadvantaged children and families every day and see the complex issues that that have, I am not unaware. I realise that this isn't the worst problem in the world.

OP posts:
cestlavielife · 02/01/2019 17:34

You are an adult
You can live alone
Take the money
Go rent a flat
Let them sell or maintain their house as they wish

Bluelady · 02/01/2019 17:34

Just use the money and leave home.

Careofcell44 · 02/01/2019 17:34

If you work full time can't you afford a house share? I wouldn't want to owe him anything.

Worsethingshappen · 02/01/2019 17:35

2 issues I see on inital reading

  1. Your dad’s “emotional/financial abuse”
  2. You need to take responsibility for your own living arrangements
OwlinaTree · 02/01/2019 17:37

Move out, as pp did, find a house share.

Angrybird345 · 02/01/2019 17:38

Looking after the house and pets is difficult because you work full time ..... really??? Unless you have a zoo in the garden, deal with being a grown up.

OwlinaTree · 02/01/2019 17:38

Said not did!

PoisonousSmurf · 02/01/2019 17:39

You're an adult
You have money!
Stop being wet!

Sitranced · 02/01/2019 17:40

You're 21, you be finding your own place by now.

ichifanny · 02/01/2019 17:40

Honestly it sounds like they gave you it in good faith to go and get your own accommodation , they have given you a massive foot up the ladder I’d say take that and go and leave them to do what they want to do , you can’t live with them and dictate what they should be fixing and prioritising .

Frenchfancy · 02/01/2019 17:41

Move out and rent. You have the money for a rental deposit so use it.

ichifanny · 02/01/2019 17:41

Also are you paying them rent ?

TheNavigator · 02/01/2019 17:42

Get a room in a flat & leave them to it. I wasn't able to live at home at your age - no way would it have been expected or allowed. I had a room in a shared flat. Why not do the same?

WorraLiberty · 02/01/2019 17:43

They've just given you SIX THOUSAND POUNDS and you can't afford to live alone?

Are you actually serious?

regmover · 02/01/2019 17:44

Keep the money. Use it to move home. Quickly. Don't move in with boyfriend and parents.

Frouby · 02/01/2019 17:44

Definetly move out asap. Use the 6k to rent somewhere and then go low contact with your dad, which will he pretty easy if they are abroad.

lisasimpsonssaxophone · 02/01/2019 17:45

I don’t understand why your choice is to give the money back or keep it. They clearly want you to move out, so why can’t you just use the money for a deposit on a house share and move out?

I’m sorry that your dad has been abusive towards you and your mum, but your comment about paying for a second home (which it sounds like they plan to move into once you leave) makes you sound like a bit of a brat I’m afraid.

My brother was a lot like this around your age too, making comments about how he didn’t see why dad couldn’t just keep giving him money because my dad was ‘loaded’ enough to be able to afford nice holidays. What your parents choose to spend their own money on is not for you to comment on, especially when they’ve given you 6k!

Firesuit · 02/01/2019 17:45

You're 21, you shouldn't be dependent on your parents except to the extent they willingly offer.

If you're living alone in a house not paying rent, then the least you can do is pay running costs. A new boiler would be less than 6K and less than a years rent, so I do think it would be reasonable for you to pay that, if you're planning to be in the house for more than a year.

Really what should happen is that you should pay your parents rent, and they should fix the boiler, but that would cost you more.

I don't think you should give the money back. But you also shouldn't feel entitled to continue living in the house, taking the value of that when your parents aren't keen on giving it to you is wrong. (I think most parents would be stricter than yours, yours seem to want to take care of you, albeit in a moany way, when really you should no longer be their responsibility.)

Orchidflower1 · 02/01/2019 17:45

I think it would be better to use the money as a deposit on a flat and move out ASAP

Pachyderm1 · 02/01/2019 17:45

Move out. Your dad sounds grim but you aren’t obliged to live there. Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face by returning the money when it’s so obvious that you should just find a houseshare and solve everyone’s problem.

If that idea is hard / unwelcome, you just have to decide if it’s more hard and unwelcome than staying at home and putting up with spats like this will be.

sackrifice · 02/01/2019 17:46

Move out. Before they go away preferably.

MonkeyfaceThereturn · 02/01/2019 17:46

Grow up for heavens sake 😂

Move out. It's not hard. Stop judging them and get on with your own life.

cestlavielife · 02/01/2019 17:46

If your pet find a dog walker during the day.
Otherwise they are your parents responsibility not yours. Go and go fast

CloserIAm2Fine · 02/01/2019 17:47

You’re an adult with savings. Stop acting like you’re trapped. You can move out and rent a room in a house share while you save up to buy a house.

“Independent” adults don’t live at home with their parents.

lisasimpsonssaxophone · 02/01/2019 17:47

Also...

I am very independent and don't like relying on people for things too much, especially money.

I mean this gently, but this statement sounds a little silly coming from someone who is currently living with their parents (rent free?) and refusing to move out.

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