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peppersprayfirst · 02/01/2019 17:30

Hi, hoping for some advice.

Background is I'm 21, live at home with my mum and dad. My mum is amazing. My dad has always been IMO and in dsis's emotionally and financially abusive towards her. He has pushed pretty much all of her family and friends away throughout their lives together, new friends come and then quickly go for some reason or another due to the way he is. She never felt that she could leave because she was a SAHM and did bits and bobs to help with his business rather than formal employment.

I have always worked and saved and am doing quite well and getting together a deposit for a house. My mum and dad had a second home abroad which they recently sold, with the proceeds they gave me £6k to go towards my savings. Obviously I was very grateful for this, but knowing how he can be I was a little wary. I am very independent and don't like relying on people for things too much, especially money.

They now have decided that they want to buy another (different) house abroad and want to retire there and live there permanently. They have made it very clear me living at home is a massive inconvenience to them because they can't sell this house. They had me later in life after a struggle to conceive again so I know I was very much wanted, but surely they thought about this part? I feel like I'm in the way, but I can't afford to live alone yet and me and my partner aren't ready to live together just yet.

They are going away again soon and are leaving me to look after the house and pets which is tricky as unlike them I work full time and am out of the house all day. The boiler is currently broken and you have to turn a knob to get the heating/hot water to work, it's been this way about 2 months now but they haven't got it fixed. Last night I went to turn the thing and it made a funny noise and the hot water didn't work like it usually has been. I said to dad I think it might be getting more broken and I'm worried it will break when they are away and I won't know what to do. Dad complained because he 'has no money' I said 'you can't pay to fix the boiler but you can pay for a second home!!?'
I haven't really seen him since but I just got in from work now and he mentioned the boiler is working when you release the pressure thing and that I must have been 'mistaken' last night but said it in a nasty way as if I was making it up? I just said 'oh right, I wasn't mistaken though it was being funny lastnight'. Then he said 'you know the comment you made lastnight about the second home, it's going to be a first home very soon'. Like a threat😂 I just thought how ridiculous, I'm not like mum you can't intimidate me with stupid remarks I'm stronger than that. I said 'oooooh that really got me' (which sounds stupid written down but wtf do you say to that) he then said well when the boiler breaks when we're away you can pay for it with the 6k I gave you. I thought wow I was waiting for this!! For him to use it against me!! I just said 'have it back I don't want it' he said 'I don't want it back' but really nastily.

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask them to get the boiler fixed, I would be happy to pay toward it. The house is also really damp, there's water marks all over my ceiling because of leaks as it isn't maintained well and all of my clothes and sheet smell strongly of damp I have to use shedloads of unstoppables to get it smelling nice. My mum hates it too, we still try to keep it nice and cosy but mum won't stick up for herself even though she knows he has the money to sort things he just won't use it unless it's something that benefits him.

They are hinting for me to go and live with my boyfriend at his parents house and although I love my boyfriend I think that would put a lot of pressure on us and if something went wrong between us I would have nowhere to go.

Should I just give him the money back? I hate feeling like I owe him something or he has some kind of control over me because of it. However, the money is a big help and will allow me to leave home sooner. I feel so awful that mums had to put up with this for so long. He's not a nice person at all. I don't really want his money.

I realise I am very privileged and there are people much worse off in the world than me. I work with disadvantaged children and families every day and see the complex issues that that have, I am not unaware. I realise that this isn't the worst problem in the world.

OP posts:
Nottoberudebut · 02/01/2019 18:05

I moved out at 21. I had no savings but a full time (poorly paid) job so I lived in a crap flat for a couple of years. It was character building.

I know I’m 10years older than you but you sound so immature. Find somewhere to live. They have every right to want you gone. I will not be encouraging my own children to stay at home once they have full time jobs! I had to spend years saving for a deposit because my parents couldn’t give me any money and I was renting.

Neverunderfed · 02/01/2019 18:06

You sound rude. If they want to fix their boiler they will, or, as you father says, you can fix it yourself.

What rent do you pay?

I'd give the money back and move out...you're an adult.

MixedMaritalArts · 02/01/2019 18:06

Move out on your own. Let him find out the hard way about managing an empty home and paying to have his pets looked after at great expense. If it’s not lived in overnight for 30 days he may have trouble insuring it, broken boiler and all - if it has been maintained good luck processing that claim. Say nothing, sort yourself out.

Downtheroadfirstonleft · 02/01/2019 18:08

I'm sorry OP, but this is almost funny. You're moaning that your DF isn't being a proper landlord, whilst living rent free.

Act your age, get independent and stop taking advantage of them.

DontCallMeCharlotte · 02/01/2019 18:09

After my dad died my mum had to sell up and move to sheltered housing so I obviously couldn't go with her. I didn't get any financial help and had to move out at 20. In the South East and later London. It can be done. Good luck.

Theunsungsong · 02/01/2019 18:09

I hate these reverse threads. Yes op your daughter is a sanctimonious pain in the arse who has the resources to leave home, but is too cheap to do that.

USn00zey0ul00ze · 02/01/2019 18:10

You are not independent yet !

thebaronetofcockburn · 02/01/2019 18:11

So move out! You have money and a FT job! Get a room in a flatshare or even your own studio flat to live in.

stokieginge · 02/01/2019 18:12

Why is everyone flatly saying move out into a shared house/bedsit when OP has clearly stated that she's saving to buy a house?!

Why because she's 21 does she deserve any less of a safe place to live than an 11yo?!

Honestly hope when all of your DC turn 21 you don't turf them out like you're basically saying OP's parents should have.

Nottoberudebut · 02/01/2019 18:13

I just have to comment about London prices. Unless people live under a rock, you grow up KNOWING London prices are ridiculous. There is such a thing as relocating for work and living in a more affordable area. I moved 1.5hrs away from home to the nearest city because there were no jobs in my town. “London” is not the big excuse people make it out to be. If plenty of people leave small towns to seek jobs, people can seek jobs in less expensive areas. Especially when young!

Ethel36 · 02/01/2019 18:14

You're old enough to move out. Find a room to rent/bedsit. Use the money for that. Your parents want to sell up and move away..so let them.

RunOut · 02/01/2019 18:14

You are 21. Sort your own accommodation out.

OrdinarySnowflake · 02/01/2019 18:14

Yep, sorry to add to the crowd, but you need to move out.

Look for a flat /house share if you can't afford to live alone.

You are 21. You don't like living with your parents, you work full time, you will be able to afford a room to rent somewhere.

Nottoberudebut · 02/01/2019 18:15

Honestly hope when all of your DC turn 21 you don't turf them out like you're basically saying OP's parents should have.

We all have to grow up sometime. OP HAS money behind her. Not everyone can wait for their children to save a deposit. Sometimes life isn’t fair.

LittleBearPad · 02/01/2019 18:15

Move out and stand on your own two feet.

certainlymerry · 02/01/2019 18:15

I agree with everyone else. It's your parents life and their choices what they do or don't do. They sound fed up with you living at home. Use the very generous amount they have given you to either buy a flat or move into a flat share. Leave them to their own lives. You can afford to do it so why aren't you doing it?

fridgepants · 02/01/2019 18:16

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TheSmallAssassin · 02/01/2019 18:17

As others have said, you might not be able to afford to live alone, but living with your boyfriend is not the only other option, get a house share. It's not ideal, but isn't it just part of being a young adult?

Bluelady · 02/01/2019 18:17

We're telling her to move out because she can't afford to buy a house but she can afford to rent somewhere. If you live rent free, you can't complain that your accommodation is substandard.

Mrsbird311 · 02/01/2019 18:18

MN is a funny old place, as soon as your kids turn 18 they are supposed to move out or pay market rent? I wouldn’t dream of expecting my kids to leave home or as long as I can afford it pay rent!! My eldest lives away but still has his room here, it’s the family house, all the money is family money, I have no problem giving my kids cash!! OP your dad sounds awful, fancy making you feel like that in your family home, I’d just stay out of his way, he will be sorry when he’s old and alone and nobody wants to look after him

OrdinarySnowflake · 02/01/2019 18:18

Stokieginge - because the savings is at the cost of putting up with her Dad, who she clearly hates living with, and is talking aout selling up anyway. She'd be better off accepting it'll take longer to save for a house and move out (few 21 year olds who live independently do in their owned home, rather than a rented one).

The living for cheap/free while you save idea only works if you are happy to live with the person who's giving you free accomodation. The OP hates living with her Dad, so it doesn't work for her.

ViolaLucyofTirol · 02/01/2019 18:20

This reminds me of a friend from uni who had similar issues, was very dispariting of the rest of us and our first 'moving out of parents' properties- would only consider a 4 bedroom/2 bathroom detached, and shuddered at our little flats!

EggysMom · 02/01/2019 18:21

Why because she's 21 does she deserve any less of a safe place to live than an 11yo?!

Because as a child/minor until 18, your parents are responsible for giving you a home. After age 18, you are independent. Your parents may be kind enough to permit you to continue living cheap or rent-free with them; but they are under no obligation to do so. You do not have an entitlement to continue living with parents.

OP, please move out. But I suspect your parents won't want you to do that, as then who would look after their house during their extended absence? Who would look after their pets? They are rather relying on you .... So if you are going to stay, bargain with them.

OrdinarySnowflake · 02/01/2019 18:21

MrsBird - perhaps it's that so many of us had to move out for work /study etc at that age, so it seems odd that if you aren't happy living with your parents, you'd not just move out and get on with being independent.

IF you are a child, you are stuck living with not nice but treating you OK parents. If you are an adult, it's entirely optional. So use the other option.

CloserIAm2Fine · 02/01/2019 18:21

People are saying move out because OP is complaining about her living situation and her parents have made it clear they want to sell the family home and she is a 21 year old adult who works full time and claims to be “independent”

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