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peppersprayfirst · 02/01/2019 17:30

Hi, hoping for some advice.

Background is I'm 21, live at home with my mum and dad. My mum is amazing. My dad has always been IMO and in dsis's emotionally and financially abusive towards her. He has pushed pretty much all of her family and friends away throughout their lives together, new friends come and then quickly go for some reason or another due to the way he is. She never felt that she could leave because she was a SAHM and did bits and bobs to help with his business rather than formal employment.

I have always worked and saved and am doing quite well and getting together a deposit for a house. My mum and dad had a second home abroad which they recently sold, with the proceeds they gave me £6k to go towards my savings. Obviously I was very grateful for this, but knowing how he can be I was a little wary. I am very independent and don't like relying on people for things too much, especially money.

They now have decided that they want to buy another (different) house abroad and want to retire there and live there permanently. They have made it very clear me living at home is a massive inconvenience to them because they can't sell this house. They had me later in life after a struggle to conceive again so I know I was very much wanted, but surely they thought about this part? I feel like I'm in the way, but I can't afford to live alone yet and me and my partner aren't ready to live together just yet.

They are going away again soon and are leaving me to look after the house and pets which is tricky as unlike them I work full time and am out of the house all day. The boiler is currently broken and you have to turn a knob to get the heating/hot water to work, it's been this way about 2 months now but they haven't got it fixed. Last night I went to turn the thing and it made a funny noise and the hot water didn't work like it usually has been. I said to dad I think it might be getting more broken and I'm worried it will break when they are away and I won't know what to do. Dad complained because he 'has no money' I said 'you can't pay to fix the boiler but you can pay for a second home!!?'
I haven't really seen him since but I just got in from work now and he mentioned the boiler is working when you release the pressure thing and that I must have been 'mistaken' last night but said it in a nasty way as if I was making it up? I just said 'oh right, I wasn't mistaken though it was being funny lastnight'. Then he said 'you know the comment you made lastnight about the second home, it's going to be a first home very soon'. Like a threat😂 I just thought how ridiculous, I'm not like mum you can't intimidate me with stupid remarks I'm stronger than that. I said 'oooooh that really got me' (which sounds stupid written down but wtf do you say to that) he then said well when the boiler breaks when we're away you can pay for it with the 6k I gave you. I thought wow I was waiting for this!! For him to use it against me!! I just said 'have it back I don't want it' he said 'I don't want it back' but really nastily.

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask them to get the boiler fixed, I would be happy to pay toward it. The house is also really damp, there's water marks all over my ceiling because of leaks as it isn't maintained well and all of my clothes and sheet smell strongly of damp I have to use shedloads of unstoppables to get it smelling nice. My mum hates it too, we still try to keep it nice and cosy but mum won't stick up for herself even though she knows he has the money to sort things he just won't use it unless it's something that benefits him.

They are hinting for me to go and live with my boyfriend at his parents house and although I love my boyfriend I think that would put a lot of pressure on us and if something went wrong between us I would have nowhere to go.

Should I just give him the money back? I hate feeling like I owe him something or he has some kind of control over me because of it. However, the money is a big help and will allow me to leave home sooner. I feel so awful that mums had to put up with this for so long. He's not a nice person at all. I don't really want his money.

I realise I am very privileged and there are people much worse off in the world than me. I work with disadvantaged children and families every day and see the complex issues that that have, I am not unaware. I realise that this isn't the worst problem in the world.

OP posts:
HollowTalk · 02/01/2019 19:13

I know you won't be able to afford a flat on your own, but you should be able to get into a good house-share. Why not have a look around?

Clutterbugsmum · 02/01/2019 19:14

Oh wow good 'ole MN double standards again. 99.9% if this was posted by a parent you would be slating the OP for charging their 'child' rent as they are only 21.

Any way OP I would use the 6 grand to rent somewhere else to live until you can afford to buy some where.

jesusishot · 02/01/2019 19:14

It doesn't seem to have occurred to anyone that maybe the OP is reluctant to abandon her mum to deal with abusive dad alone. Mum clearly can't stand up for herself (sounds like she would get the boiler fixed if she had any say in the matter?) and dad is already manoevering to isolate her even further by moving them to another country. I honestly wouldn't blame the OP for being reluctant to co-operate with his plans.

granadagirl · 02/01/2019 19:17

Adults don’t live with there parents?

Your an adult at 18, so once you reach that age you should get your own place!!

Some people need to get real, and get in the real world.
Or can’t you wait to get rid of your adult! Kids

MaltedMilk88 · 02/01/2019 19:20

OP I'm sorry if some of our responses have seemed a little harsh but such is life.
I do feel for your predicament and your dad really does sound like an arse!
However at 21 you are old enough to make the necessary changes and with 6k under your belt (which you can always pay back later) you are in a better situation than many. If you an in an area, assume London? where it is too expensive for you to live on your own then why not a house share?

KatherinaMinola · 02/01/2019 19:20

I don't think there's any real solution that doesn't involve me living alone miles and miles away from my family, friends and job or putting my relationship under strain.

Confused There's nowhere in the country that you couldn't rent a room for £6,000 a year. And you have £6,000 in your hand now. What do you earn?

JamieOliversChickenNugget · 02/01/2019 19:21

Move out into a house share. They don't have a responsibility to house you, and your relationship won't improve while ever you're there.
You can still save in a house share, and you hardly need to be there.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 02/01/2019 19:23

Be strong and be wise. Do not give the money back, and do not move in with your boyfriend or his parents. Do not waste the money on your parents' boiler either. Move out. Depending what you can afford, either rent a small flat of your own or else rent a room in a shared flat. 6K would be a good deposit on a rental, or save some for emergency funds, or keep it as a nestegg for when you can afford to buy your own place.

I am sorry your parents are so inadequate (how dare they suggest you move in with your boyfriend's family!) but they are as they are and there's nothing you can do about it. And you can't stay at home to protect your mother (or her pets) from your father. She is an adult as well and must make her own decisions and live with the consequences. You do need to move out. Lead your own life and enjoy your independence.

Butchyrestingface · 02/01/2019 19:24

I think I'll leave it at that, I don't think there's any real solution that doesn't involve me living alone miles and miles away from my family, friends and job or putting my relationship under strain

I don't understand - is your job unpaid? Even in London (nothing to say that's where you are), you could afford a flat share with £6k cash-in-hand plus your earnings.

Frenchfancy · 02/01/2019 19:30

With 6k in your pocket you really can afford to move out. I think your Dad has been feeding you the idea that you are totally reliant on him.

Do some research yourself. Look up rooms available. I'm sure you'll find something.

peppersprayfirst · 02/01/2019 19:30

Yes I will be looking into house shares! That's a really good idea and something I hadn't even considered, so thank you. I was just reluctant to rent because I was doing so well saving to buy but not to worry, needs must.

Yes to whoever said I don't want to leave my mum. I feel so sad for her, the house used to be beautiful, I think she's just given up now because there's only so much you can do. Will be really hard without her here. I also don't hate my dad at all, I hate the way he can be, but I don't hate him.

OP posts:
Fairenuff · 02/01/2019 19:31

You can afford a house share surely?

Fairenuff · 02/01/2019 19:31

Oh x post

stokieginge · 02/01/2019 19:32

Really curious to know just how many of you stating she should move into a house share have done so yourselves.

Or were many of you of the generation that were lucky enough to be able to afford deposits to your own properties upon leaving your parents homes?!

Do any of you have children over the age of 18?

The mind boggles.

Fairenuff · 02/01/2019 19:33

My children 19 and 22 both live in house shares.

Bluelady · 02/01/2019 19:34

I moved into a flat share when I was 17.

My son and all my step children are over 18.

Next?

cosytoaster · 02/01/2019 19:38

Oh wow good 'ole MN double standards again. 99.9% if this was posted by a parent you would be slating the OP for charging their 'child' rent as they are only 21

I agree with this. You've posted asking for help and advice and got a lot of unnecessarily harsh replies. You actually sound really sensible.

Definitely keep the money and good luck in finding a suitable houseshare

stokieginge · 02/01/2019 19:38

@Bluelady do they all live in flat shares or are they still at home with you/their DM.

AJPTaylor · 02/01/2019 19:38

You are 21.don't waste your best years saving for "one day".
Leave now. Find a flat share/ house share. Keep the money. Feck them

AJPTaylor · 02/01/2019 19:40

Oh and I have 2 see, 21 and 23. Both live in house shares. I moved at 20. Never regretted it.

MaltedMilk88 · 02/01/2019 19:41

@stokieginge I'm 30 and moved out at 17. Not a house share as such, I live in the midlands so was lucky not to have London prices to contend with. Myself and a friend shared a rented flat which wasn't exactly luxury. It was fine and I'd do it again, the independence it gave me was great.
I have friends now that live in London and house share, like I say such is life, if everything is rosy at home its great to be able to have that parental support but if its not it really isn't the end of the world and its easier than you think to support yourself.

I wouldn't say I'm from the generation you describe.

goldengummybear · 02/01/2019 19:42

Flat shares/house shares are totally normal in your 20s?! I don't know many 21 year olds living alone.

Bluelady · 02/01/2019 19:44

@stokieginge, all live independently. One left home at 17, two at 18, one went to boarding school at 15, then to uni. All gone long before 21. My husband went to boarding school in another country at 15 and never lived at home thereafter. We're an independent lot.

jessstan2 · 02/01/2019 19:44

What others have said, find yourself a little flat to rent and enjoy your independence. It would not be sensible for you to move in with boyfriend if you're not ready and you are young. Your adult life starts.....now!

Flowers Wine

It will be nice to have your parents living in a place where you can go for a holiday. I know a couple of people who live abroad and their children and relatives visit frequently and have a great time. Seeing them for a week or two occasionally will be quite different to living with them.

Begrateful · 02/01/2019 19:44

Some of the previous posts are scorching harsh, ouch! 🤪

I don't think OP deserved all of that steam.

There are a few in my family who can be just as nasty as your dad and it used to make my blood boil. I eventually distanced myself from them and it has done wonders.

You mention being very independent so why continue exposing yourself to unfavourable conditions at your parents house when having a fulltime job gives you options. Anyway, do what you feel is best for you OP but it might be sensible to use some of the 6K towards renting your own place.

Best of luck 💐

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