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AIBU to expect the labour leader not to tell lies

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NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 19/12/2018 18:12

When it's obvious that what he actually said was "stupid woman".

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RadioGagga · 19/12/2018 18:14

I know it doesn't bode well does it?

BachAtTheMoon · 19/12/2018 18:17

I don't expect any politician to tell lies really, in an ideal world. But they do... All of them..

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 19/12/2018 18:18

no. He would have been better off just apologising for saying it and saying it was wrong. Now I know he's a liar.

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Terfing · 19/12/2018 18:18

I'm no fan of Corbin, but it did look like "people" to me.

That said, I think that the word "stupid" was more offensive. Plus, TM is much smarter than him, and he knows it.

Seniorcitizen1 · 19/12/2018 18:20

Don’t understand the fuss - she is female and keeps on behaving stupidly. So “stupid woman” is accurate. A make PM acting in the same way would be called a stupid man. People need to get over themselves

Walkingdeadfangirl · 19/12/2018 18:21

Typical man putting down a woman. He should apologise.

SheCameFromGreeceSheHadaThirst · 19/12/2018 18:21

So Corbyn's misogynistic. Who knew? Hmm

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/12/2018 18:24

Watching the footage, it does look as if he says ‘Stupid woman’, not ‘Stupid people’. He should have owned his words, and apologised.

NotACleverName · 19/12/2018 18:27

I don't give a flying fuck what he called her if I'm being honest. With rough sleeping up 169%, the Tories inability to broker a deal for Brexit, deaths linked to austerity etc, stupid woman is the least that she deserves.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/12/2018 18:29

Even if you don’t care what he said, doesn’t it matter that he seems to have told a blatant lie, @NotACleverName?

FoxFoxSierra · 19/12/2018 18:30

It looks like he said stupid people to me

gamerwidow · 19/12/2018 18:32

It's stupid not to own your words when you've been obviously caught out. If he said yes I said it in the heat of the moment because I think her actions on x,y & z are stupid it would be forgotten about much more quickly.
Politicians never seem to get that to make a mistake and admit to it is better than trying to cover things up.
Making mistakes is human but lying shows poor character.

Storminateacup1 · 19/12/2018 18:34

I politician lying! Whatever next?! GrinWink

SheCameFromGreeceSheHadaThirst · 19/12/2018 18:35

That said, I think that the word "stupid" was more offensive. Plus, TM is much smarter than him, and he knows it.

How very dare you! He scraped two Es at A-level!! Shock

coolwalking · 19/12/2018 18:35

It's him lying about it which is really bad.

UrsulaPandress · 19/12/2018 18:37

Yes it’s the lying. Not the saying.

Mealy mouthed idiot.

YoungLennyGodber · 19/12/2018 18:40

He should apologise. It does look as though he said ‘woman’. But politicians are always lying, so no surprise there.

The80sweregreat · 19/12/2018 18:41

Here's hoping that they might use this to elect a new leader! The Labour Party could do with one. They are pretty unelectable with him at the helm as it is. I don't hate the man but his not the leader they need to win elections.

However , if TM had called him a ' stupid man' nobody would bat an eyelid. Not that I'm condoning what he said but I'm sure nobody would have been too bothered by it (except his most ardent fans) and he ( probably) would laugh it off.
They all probably think a lot worse of each other as it is!

ForalltheSaints · 19/12/2018 18:42

The non-leader of the Opposition said 'stupid people'. Or else the BBC is very good at editing.

MrsMattMurdock · 19/12/2018 18:43

Are we watching the same thing? You can clearly see his lips make two plosive sounds in quick succession, as in the word "people". But yes let's all pretend he said something else, and use it to distract the population from the fact the country is collapsing around our ears due to our elected representatives' (of all parties) shambolic desertion of their duties.

MrsMattMurdock · 19/12/2018 18:44

I meant dereliction.

Augusta2012 · 19/12/2018 18:47

Given what gets dished out in that house it seemed pretty mild to me. It’s a hugely contentious issue and I don’t blame Corbyn for losing his temper in a very mild way. Corbyn is allowed to be partisan. He is the head of the opposition.

Bercow though, his bias is a worry.

bertielab · 19/12/2018 18:50

Without a shadow of a doubt he said stupid woman

ShadyLady53 · 19/12/2018 18:51

I cannot see how he has said anything other than Stupid Woman. I know a lot about speech and voice production (it’s part of my job and I teach at a university) and there was no way that he made a plosive p sound. He clearly purses his lips as in a w sound. Also there are two plosives in people...and there is no evidence he made a repetitive sound. I’ve watched the video over and over.

It seems to me that he is blatantly lying. It’s like watching Trump! Frightening times.

Teresa was being Goady. It’s wrong to say Stupid Woman, yes but if he’d admitted it and apologised I’d think a bit more of him. Blatantly, and comfortably, lying on the record isn’t on.

SlipperyLizard · 19/12/2018 18:51

I’m no Corbyn fan, but I think he said “people”.

But she is also a stupid woman, driving the country off a cliff.