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Bad hosts?

184 replies

TakeFive1959 · 18/12/2018 14:08

Last weekend, my DH and I stayed for three nights at my SIL's and her DH's house, who live in another country. About a month in advance, we asked her if it would be fine for us to stay, since we wanted to visit them -last time we saw each other was in summer-, to which she said yes.

Let's say that we did not quite feel, well... hospitality, precisely. The day of our arrival -on Friday night, 8pm-ish-, we were supposed to meet at a train station to go together with them to their house (which we had never been to, since they moved a couple of months ago). We let them know beforehand the time we were arriving, we messaged them when our plane landed, and even when our train was on the way to the station. They just did not show up. We called them letting them know that we had arrived, and they said they were still home! They did not just arrive from work, but were there - we don't know what. So instead of waiting all the way for them to arrive -25-30 minutes-, we just compromise to meet them at half the way.

Then, when we arrived at their house (at around late 9 pm), they did not offer us anything to eat or even snack. There was not any dinner or snacks prepared, so we all order take away. They had not had dinner themselves either, waiting for us to have dinner together.

Right after ordering, my SIL says that 'ours' is 'x' pounds so that we pay her the cost of our meal, which we do immediately and do nothing else that night but smile and talk to them. We ended up having dinner at 11pm.

Of course, we had brought with us some gifts for them -things we knew they liked-, and gave them upon our arrival. We were also more than willing -or would have been, if things would have been different- to contribute with the costs of our stay and invite them for some meals and/or buy groceries, but were just not expecting that reaction precisely on the night of our arrival, which was quite shocking tbh.

During the rest of our stay, they provided for breakfasts -consisting of cereals with milk or yoghurt, fruit and coffee or tea-, and an occasional drink -twice- at their house, but nothing else. They did not cook once - which is fine for me-, and all meals were out or takeaways, but we were expected to pay for absolutely every meal apart from breakfast, and they did not invite us even once, not even to a coffee or tea while we were out in the city with them.

In fact, they were so tight that they expected each person the bear the exact cost of what they had ordered, they did not just divide the bill (even when what we all had ordered was pretty similar in cost). This happened with coffee, too.

During all our stay, we cleaned our dishes and what we used for breakfast and/or for the takeaways without being asked for, and we offered our help whenever we could (to clean the dishes, set the table or even prepare a coffee for them at breakfast, since they always woke up later than we did!).

The morning we left, we woke up to be ready to leave the house at the same time they did, since they did not have the day off and had to go to work, and we did not want to be an inconvenience for them.

I would love to say that our stay was lovely, but that attitude left us quite cold. We tried to ignore it the first day, but then it just repeated during all our stay, so we did not bother to invite them for dinner or coffee either, feeling quite annoyed.

Is it just us, or is this really an absolute lack of hospitality? If they had stayed at our house, I know we would have made sure that dinner was ready when they arrived, and would have been waiting for them at the train station upon their arrival (not to mention that we would have invited them to all of the meals at our house, or some of them if dinner or lunch was out, in addition to buying some snacks and/or things for them).

Financially, they currently do better than we do, since SIL has a very good job and my DH is unemployed at the moment, but there is usually not a big difference between us.

What do you think?? Last night I messaged SIL thanking her for 'our stay', and offering them to stay at our house anytime, but did not feel right thanking her for their 'hospitality', since we felt there was NONE.

Am I being over-criticising? Do you believe that they are aware that they were not hospitable? What would you do?

OP posts:
AliceScarlett · 18/12/2018 14:11

So if you had guests you would pay for all their food for three days?

ABoozedMoose · 18/12/2018 14:13

Did they definitelysay they would collect you from the station, or did you assume they would?

You can't make assumptions that people will host in the same way that you would host

HopeGarden · 18/12/2018 14:13

They don’t sound like the most hospitable of hosts.

But is it possible that their finances are tighter than you think? Bigger mortgage, loan repayments, other expenses?

NotAnotherUserName5 · 18/12/2018 14:16

You invited yourself to stay. Maybe they weren’t really that up for it, but didn’t want to upset you.

Cleo18 · 18/12/2018 14:16

I would do nothing. You stayed with them - they were both working so busy and maybe tired. It is a busy time but you invited yourselves and maybe they felt they couldn't say no - even though it was really difficult financially and time -wise.

However - if you like them and enjoy their company none of that would matter. As it is you got free bed and breakfast if that's how you want to look at it

Bombardier25966 · 18/12/2018 14:16

When you stay with family you muck in and get on with it.

They sound like my kind of people.

ScrantonTheElectricCity · 18/12/2018 14:18

The not meeting you does sound odd, it is a courteous thing to do when people have arrived and dont know their way around. Not to offer tea and coffee is a little odd too.
But paying for yourselves when you go out and for takeaways is perfectly understandable

SarahET · 18/12/2018 14:19

If I had guests I would expect to provide food for them for the majority if not all of the meals. I think often a guest will offer to buy a takeaway/ take everyone out as a thank you but I wouldn't expect it. When the tables are reversed they do the same for you. They sound a little strange to me.

Myneighboursnorlax · 18/12/2018 14:21

If they had invited you it would be a little different, but you invited yourselves.

PlainVanilla · 18/12/2018 14:22

To be fair, if I understood your post correctly, you asked if you could stay with them, they didn't actually invite you.
If I asked to stay with someone I would not expect them to provide all my food and drink.
However, if I invited someone to stay, I would certainly expect to be responsible for food and drink during the stay.

BirthdayCakes · 18/12/2018 14:22

They do sound unhospitable OP - but just chalk it up to experience..

TulipsTwoLips · 18/12/2018 14:27

They sound like my kind of people too.

InSightMars · 18/12/2018 14:29

They actually do sound like terrible hosts, overseas visitors and they couldn't even be arsed to pick them up at the station or offer them a meal on arrival or treat them to a coffee out and about? Give over. OP may have invited herself but the could have said no, we're really bust at work so it's not convenient, here are some nearby hotels.
Better that than this grudging and very dubious welcome. Sure expect guests to muck in and guests should be prepared to pay for dinner a couple of times as a thank you and contribute to groceries but this is bloody rude.

InSightMars · 18/12/2018 14:30

Busy not bust!

TheFaerieQueene · 18/12/2018 14:31

When I have guests to stay, I cook every meal. I have invited people to stay with me and I enjoy hosting. My guests normally bring champagne and wine, but we will drink much more during their stay 😝. I certainly don’t expect them to bring or pay for food.

LaurieFairyCake · 18/12/2018 14:35

Turn it around.

We expected our guests to not cost us very much money. We are happy to provide breakfast but don't want to actually spend money hosting just because we live in a desirable space. They invited themselves, we didn't invite them.

They are MY kind of people - I wish all guests did this (eyes up £180 food shop for Christmas Day for in-laws who won't bring anything)

DannyWallace · 18/12/2018 14:37

So you asked to stay at their house and you are annoyed they didn't pay for your food while you were there?

YABU.

I used to live abroad. People used to see it as a holiday and it really annoyed me. I don't have the time or money to keep going out and buying food to feed two or three extra people every month.
Ok, I would often make sure there was plenty breakfasts in, and I would've probably offered drinks and things more often. But paying when we were all out? No chance!!

Lettermethis · 18/12/2018 14:40

they were so tight that they expected each person the bear the exact cost of what they had ordered

Why on earth is it tight to pay for what you each had?! Why should they sub you, you're already staying there for free!

STOP THE WORLD.

MsMamaNature · 18/12/2018 14:44

You were rude "inviting" yourselves to stay at their house. They obviously didn't want to be rude and say no. You may find that this was their way of ensuring you don't "invite" yourselves back again anytime in the near future.

WishIwasanastronaut · 18/12/2018 14:48

OP are you British? Because this is such a typically British thing - spending hours deliberating and fretting about it. Other cultures would just simply ask them whether you have offended them, talk it through, apologise and move on. It’s so easy. Try it!

TakeFive1959 · 18/12/2018 14:49

AliceScarlett yes, as I said in my post we would have gladly paid for all their food and drink at our house, and also some of the lunches/diners at restaurants. If we have guests, they are our guests and we want to make them feel as best as possible and pamper them, especially if it is family.

I can understand that not everyone hosts the same way, as some user pointed out, but they did not even invite us for ONE meal, nor even a coffee, ffs. We did not need to be invited, but thought it would have been nice of them. Also, if they can afford having take away and eating out every single day, I would assume their finances are fine.

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GnomeDePlume · 18/12/2018 14:49

Do they live somewhere which people want to visit? You may be the umpteenth person who has turned up expecting to be wined and dined, shown the sights etc.

Having lived abroad we did find that some guests used us as a free holiday and felt they had done us a favour by visiting us.

Holidayshopping · 18/12/2018 14:49

Are you saying they made you pay for their meals out as well, or just your own?

TakeFive1959 · 18/12/2018 14:50

ABoozedMoose we talked about our arrival time and where to meet with days in advance, and meeting at the train station was actually their proposal. I would have been glad to directly meet them at their house -if they had given us the address-, but we were supposed to wait for them.

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SneezyWasTheDopeyOne · 18/12/2018 14:52

We live in another country. For years people invited themselves, it used to cost a lot of money to keep hosting everyone. DH said the hotel was closed each summer from now on a few years ago. People just took the piss. It's been bliss having the summers to ourselves.

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