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Bad hosts?

184 replies

TakeFive1959 · 18/12/2018 14:08

Last weekend, my DH and I stayed for three nights at my SIL's and her DH's house, who live in another country. About a month in advance, we asked her if it would be fine for us to stay, since we wanted to visit them -last time we saw each other was in summer-, to which she said yes.

Let's say that we did not quite feel, well... hospitality, precisely. The day of our arrival -on Friday night, 8pm-ish-, we were supposed to meet at a train station to go together with them to their house (which we had never been to, since they moved a couple of months ago). We let them know beforehand the time we were arriving, we messaged them when our plane landed, and even when our train was on the way to the station. They just did not show up. We called them letting them know that we had arrived, and they said they were still home! They did not just arrive from work, but were there - we don't know what. So instead of waiting all the way for them to arrive -25-30 minutes-, we just compromise to meet them at half the way.

Then, when we arrived at their house (at around late 9 pm), they did not offer us anything to eat or even snack. There was not any dinner or snacks prepared, so we all order take away. They had not had dinner themselves either, waiting for us to have dinner together.

Right after ordering, my SIL says that 'ours' is 'x' pounds so that we pay her the cost of our meal, which we do immediately and do nothing else that night but smile and talk to them. We ended up having dinner at 11pm.

Of course, we had brought with us some gifts for them -things we knew they liked-, and gave them upon our arrival. We were also more than willing -or would have been, if things would have been different- to contribute with the costs of our stay and invite them for some meals and/or buy groceries, but were just not expecting that reaction precisely on the night of our arrival, which was quite shocking tbh.

During the rest of our stay, they provided for breakfasts -consisting of cereals with milk or yoghurt, fruit and coffee or tea-, and an occasional drink -twice- at their house, but nothing else. They did not cook once - which is fine for me-, and all meals were out or takeaways, but we were expected to pay for absolutely every meal apart from breakfast, and they did not invite us even once, not even to a coffee or tea while we were out in the city with them.

In fact, they were so tight that they expected each person the bear the exact cost of what they had ordered, they did not just divide the bill (even when what we all had ordered was pretty similar in cost). This happened with coffee, too.

During all our stay, we cleaned our dishes and what we used for breakfast and/or for the takeaways without being asked for, and we offered our help whenever we could (to clean the dishes, set the table or even prepare a coffee for them at breakfast, since they always woke up later than we did!).

The morning we left, we woke up to be ready to leave the house at the same time they did, since they did not have the day off and had to go to work, and we did not want to be an inconvenience for them.

I would love to say that our stay was lovely, but that attitude left us quite cold. We tried to ignore it the first day, but then it just repeated during all our stay, so we did not bother to invite them for dinner or coffee either, feeling quite annoyed.

Is it just us, or is this really an absolute lack of hospitality? If they had stayed at our house, I know we would have made sure that dinner was ready when they arrived, and would have been waiting for them at the train station upon their arrival (not to mention that we would have invited them to all of the meals at our house, or some of them if dinner or lunch was out, in addition to buying some snacks and/or things for them).

Financially, they currently do better than we do, since SIL has a very good job and my DH is unemployed at the moment, but there is usually not a big difference between us.

What do you think?? Last night I messaged SIL thanking her for 'our stay', and offering them to stay at our house anytime, but did not feel right thanking her for their 'hospitality', since we felt there was NONE.

Am I being over-criticising? Do you believe that they are aware that they were not hospitable? What would you do?

OP posts:
tenbob · 18/12/2018 14:53

What do you mean by 'they didn't invite us for ONE meal, nor even a coffee'?

You mean they should have taken you out for meals and coffees to show you around?
Or they were out at work and you wanted to be invited to their office?

I agree with other posters

When you invite yourself to stay with other people, you aren't their guests. You're using them as a free hotel and owe them a thank you

CantWaitToRetire · 18/12/2018 14:54

You say they only moved two months ago, so maybe they're not as financially well off as you think with the moving costs and possibly bigger mortgage. You also invited yourself and took up their whole weekend, so could be they were just being polite and didn't know how to nicely turn down the request.

Winterfellwonderland · 18/12/2018 14:54

Ugh I hate people like this. A welcoming hello costs nothing..... an offer of a cup of tea cost pennies....... you shouldn’t expect a host to foot the cost of all meals but I would have expected a host to cook at least once.

SneezyWasTheDopeyOne · 18/12/2018 14:56

but thought it would have been nice of them

Hahahaha

Yeah it's so nice paying for people that invite themselves to stay with you. Just what we all want. Putting up with uninvited guests and paying for the privilege.

SPARKS17 · 18/12/2018 14:57

We have guests stay a lot and it is a lot of extra baggage meal planning and making sure you have enough food in, getting rooms/bathrooms clean and tidy. It can also be expensive as you want to be a good host and offer plenty of booze, deserts, cheese boards etc. If people are cheap I can see how the cost of you staying could be an issue for them.

I'm sure the last thing most people want to do on a friday night is cook after a long week, so I dont think ordering a takeaway is that unusual.

Not meeting you at the station is rude

Valasca · 18/12/2018 14:59

I doubt they have take away every day. They just didn’t want to host you. You invited yourselves over so they were never your hosts. A host actually wants your company and invites you.

It was also incredibly rude not to pay for their take away the first night. You set the tone all by yourselves and they just followed.

You didn’t even think to buy any groceries?!

Let me guess, when you visited them last summer, they were good hosts?

Yeah, you took the piss and they’re fed up with being a free city break for you.

Lettermethis · 18/12/2018 15:00

OP you sound like hard work.

PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 18/12/2018 15:01

THey didn’t want you to stay.

IF I host then all meals are provided and extra treats too. It is what good people do. Some people are bean counting, arse clenching chugnuts in this world though. Shame on them.

SneezyWasTheDopeyOne · 18/12/2018 15:03

It was also incredibly rude not to pay for their take away the first night

&

Yeah, you took the piss and they’re fed up with being a free city break for you.

Cherries101 · 18/12/2018 15:03

You weren’t guests, you are family. You’re expected to muck in.

TakeFive1959 · 18/12/2018 15:04

Just to clarify: we wanted to visit THEM, since we live in different countries and it had been long since the last time we saw each other. We actually live in a way more desirable, touristy place than they do, with great climate all year around, great food scene, and wonderful beaches and nature, and they are welcome to visit us anytime btw.

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GhostSauce · 18/12/2018 15:04

TBH if I am a guest in someone's house I always offer to take them out as hosts to thank them for putting us up/saving us the cost of a hotel.

If you invited yourselves to visit them at a time when it sounds like they are also going to work I wouldn't expect them to be cooking/hosting dinners at home.

TruffleShuffles · 18/12/2018 15:05

As someone who lives abroad and has friends and family visit I find nothing worse than being treated like the manager of an all inclusive hotel. Yes it’s lovely that people come to visit us and I really enjoy it but I can’t afford to feed everyone who stays with us for the entirety of their stay and don’t really understand why I should. Having other people stay with you is tiring, cooking and tidying up after extra people is no fun. Also anyone who has ever stayed with us has payed their way at restaurants and has always treated us to meal out too to say thank you for letting them stay.

TemptressofWaikiki · 18/12/2018 15:07

The clue is in 'you invited yourself'. They probably did not want you to come and accepted through gritted their teeth because you put them on the spot. You did not seem to have actually made a firm arrangement with them to actually pick you up either. You do seem to lack self-awareness and come across a bit entitled. You appear to expect a pat on the back but all of the things you mentioned you did, are the things I would expect from people who invite themselves.

Weathermonger · 18/12/2018 15:08

They don't sound hospitable... but you invited yourselves, two weeks before Christmas, to a house they have been in only 2 months, tying up a weekend for two people working full time... I think their only fault was they were too polite to say no to your request to stay.

SilverLining10 · 18/12/2018 15:09

They sound very , very rude. I cant imagine guests coming at night and not making supper at least. And as for Being so tight with all outings, I wouldn't have invited them along either.
In fact I would have just messaged to say thank you but not offered any invite to come 'anytime'.

SneezyWasTheDopeyOne · 18/12/2018 15:10

they are welcome to visit us anytime btw.

Yet they choose not too, I wonder why.

hellhavenofury · 18/12/2018 15:10

Its not an all inclusive holiday BTW OP!

GnomeDePlume · 18/12/2018 15:12

Being willing to be a generous host for an occasional visitor works fine. What starts to grate is when this is repeated time and again. You may have only visited the once but that doesnt mean you were the only visitor.

Do you get a lot of visitors who invite themselves and do you pull out all the stops for each and every visitor?

Lettermethis · 18/12/2018 15:15

@TakeFive1959

So you graced them with your presence, of course! Truth is, if you wanted to see them then you should have stayed in a hotel nearby. The only thing they did wrong was accept, probably not wanting to offend.

You're coming across as very entitled and ungrateful.

Don't invite yourself again. It's rude.

Ifangyow · 18/12/2018 15:16

I still have my home abroad ( my time is divided between here and there ) I have always refused point blank to have guests at any time, despite people asking.
One cheeky work colleague actually asked if she could stay at my home abroad for a weekend as she was desperately wanting to visit the Xmas markets, as 'its not like you will be there yourself is it'. She got told where to go!
If you invited yourself OP, then I think it's only fair that you paid your own way or at least paid for the take away meal as a gesture of thanks.
Rather than staying over, couldn't you have arranged to meet them the following evening for a meal or a drink?

MaryPoppinsDick · 18/12/2018 15:16

You gave a months notice of staying for the whole weekend, so I can understand their frostyness tbh. In saying that, I would have said it was inconvenient for you to stay.

I don’t understand them not meeting you as arranged or having a meal prepared on your arrival, that strikes me as odd. It may be worth just acknowledging to them that you took a whole weekend just before Christmas and apologising for the inconvenience - for the sake of family relationships.

SneezyWasTheDopeyOne · 18/12/2018 15:16

One time we had 3 lots of friends/family book their visits free holiday to us back to back. One lot left and the next lot arrived the very next day. None of them even checked dates with us before they booked their flights.

That was fun for us not

Aquamarine1029 · 18/12/2018 15:17

They could have been a wee bit more hospitable in my opinion, but I also would never dream of inviting myself to stay in someone's home. I think they were not happy about your visit and that perhaps their lack of hospitality was a calculated move to ensure you don't invite yourself again.

dolliebauble · 18/12/2018 15:19

I hate people staying in my house and I hate staying in other people's. It's just not civilised.