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Bad hosts?

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TakeFive1959 · 18/12/2018 14:08

Last weekend, my DH and I stayed for three nights at my SIL's and her DH's house, who live in another country. About a month in advance, we asked her if it would be fine for us to stay, since we wanted to visit them -last time we saw each other was in summer-, to which she said yes.

Let's say that we did not quite feel, well... hospitality, precisely. The day of our arrival -on Friday night, 8pm-ish-, we were supposed to meet at a train station to go together with them to their house (which we had never been to, since they moved a couple of months ago). We let them know beforehand the time we were arriving, we messaged them when our plane landed, and even when our train was on the way to the station. They just did not show up. We called them letting them know that we had arrived, and they said they were still home! They did not just arrive from work, but were there - we don't know what. So instead of waiting all the way for them to arrive -25-30 minutes-, we just compromise to meet them at half the way.

Then, when we arrived at their house (at around late 9 pm), they did not offer us anything to eat or even snack. There was not any dinner or snacks prepared, so we all order take away. They had not had dinner themselves either, waiting for us to have dinner together.

Right after ordering, my SIL says that 'ours' is 'x' pounds so that we pay her the cost of our meal, which we do immediately and do nothing else that night but smile and talk to them. We ended up having dinner at 11pm.

Of course, we had brought with us some gifts for them -things we knew they liked-, and gave them upon our arrival. We were also more than willing -or would have been, if things would have been different- to contribute with the costs of our stay and invite them for some meals and/or buy groceries, but were just not expecting that reaction precisely on the night of our arrival, which was quite shocking tbh.

During the rest of our stay, they provided for breakfasts -consisting of cereals with milk or yoghurt, fruit and coffee or tea-, and an occasional drink -twice- at their house, but nothing else. They did not cook once - which is fine for me-, and all meals were out or takeaways, but we were expected to pay for absolutely every meal apart from breakfast, and they did not invite us even once, not even to a coffee or tea while we were out in the city with them.

In fact, they were so tight that they expected each person the bear the exact cost of what they had ordered, they did not just divide the bill (even when what we all had ordered was pretty similar in cost). This happened with coffee, too.

During all our stay, we cleaned our dishes and what we used for breakfast and/or for the takeaways without being asked for, and we offered our help whenever we could (to clean the dishes, set the table or even prepare a coffee for them at breakfast, since they always woke up later than we did!).

The morning we left, we woke up to be ready to leave the house at the same time they did, since they did not have the day off and had to go to work, and we did not want to be an inconvenience for them.

I would love to say that our stay was lovely, but that attitude left us quite cold. We tried to ignore it the first day, but then it just repeated during all our stay, so we did not bother to invite them for dinner or coffee either, feeling quite annoyed.

Is it just us, or is this really an absolute lack of hospitality? If they had stayed at our house, I know we would have made sure that dinner was ready when they arrived, and would have been waiting for them at the train station upon their arrival (not to mention that we would have invited them to all of the meals at our house, or some of them if dinner or lunch was out, in addition to buying some snacks and/or things for them).

Financially, they currently do better than we do, since SIL has a very good job and my DH is unemployed at the moment, but there is usually not a big difference between us.

What do you think?? Last night I messaged SIL thanking her for 'our stay', and offering them to stay at our house anytime, but did not feel right thanking her for their 'hospitality', since we felt there was NONE.

Am I being over-criticising? Do you believe that they are aware that they were not hospitable? What would you do?

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ChocolateWombat · 19/12/2018 10:23

A range of hosting experiences exists and a range are acceptable - clearly there isn't only one correct way to do it, and those who insist everyone else must do as they would, or are wrong, are daft.

Again, communication seems key. It's fine to not be able to cook for guests or to go to work when they are around, or to expect quite a bit of fending for themselves BUT IT HELPS TO MAKE CLEAR IN ADVANCE THAT WILL BE THE SCENARIO. Whatever level of hosting is provided though, being friendly and seeming pleased to see people seems a basic prerequisite. If you aren't willing to be friendly to those staying in your house, it's best not to have them.

Hosting can range from a 24/7 programme of activities and 4 meals a day provided either home cooked or paid for whilst out, plus the red carpet treatment throughout. It can also involve a bed for the night and access to the kettle and tea/coffee and not much else. Either is fine if the situation is clear in advance and everyone understands, but being friendly is vital and it's possible to make people feel welcome or unwelcome with any physical level of hosting.

SneezyWasTheDopeyOne · 19/12/2018 10:50

I'm with the OP. When people stay with us, even if a little inconvenient, we make time for them, arrange some sightseeing, provide all meals and are very generous with the booze. All of our friends and family do the same.

All very well in theory, but we've had at times 8-9 lots of visitors over the summer. Are we expected to take 2 months off work and have the costs for 2 months? Seriously?

blueshoes · 19/12/2018 14:00

I agree about making expectations clear. Where I have had family over who wanted a London base to explore, I have made it clear that I will only take one day or no time off. I pick them up to and from the airport, showed them the nearest train/tube station, set them up with oyster cards and maps and additional breakfast, snacky foods in the house and with comfortable beds/bathroom. However, I might drift and out of the house in accordance with my timetable and be engaged with the usual school and family humdrum. I will find time to sit and have a coffee/meal with them, where possible.

I hope they did not find it rude. I am always one to communicate in advance so they know what to expect. I am sure guests don't want to put their hosts out too, especially where they invited themselves.

The OP's hosts showed poor form. If they were reluctant hosts, they should have just declined.

AlaskanOilBaron · 19/12/2018 16:59

All very well in theory, but we've had at times 8-9 lots of visitors over the summer.

Goodness, where do you live? This strikes me as unusual.

Copperbonnet · 19/12/2018 17:02

I'm with the OP. When people stay with us, even if a little inconvenient, we make time for them, arrange some sightseeing, provide all meals and are very generous with the booze. All of our friends and family do the same.

And so do we, in the U.K. when we have one, perhaps two sets of visitors a year.

Now we live in the USA and can have 2 sets of visitors a month We are rather more practical about hosting.

The OP’s hosts live abroad, perhaps they are fed up hosting.

OliviaStabler · 19/12/2018 17:04

To me the difference is you invited yourself as opposed to being invited. It is clear from some replies on this thread that some people see no difference in either but some people do see a clear difference.

When you invite yourself you need to ensure you pay your way. I would have expected you to have eaten by 9pm but if I arranged a takeaway I would expect you to offer to pay for the takeaway on the first night. Yes you bought them expensive gifts but nothing beats cold hard cash.

They were exceptionally rude not meeting you as agreed but you were also exceptionally rude in not taking them out for dinner and / or buying groceries while you stayed there.

SneezyWasTheDopeyOne · 19/12/2018 17:15

@AlaskanOilBaron Barcelona. Friends have more consideration generally. Family just think it's their right to come and rarely ask, and think they are doing us a favour by visiting.
It has cost us a small fortune hosting over the years.

When we said the hotel is closed in the summer and said a 5 day limit it was brilliant.

Strawberry2017 · 19/12/2018 17:38

I think they could have been better hosts, my sister would never treat me and my husband like that even if she didn't want us to stay lol
Maybe something was going on that you didn't know about. They might not be happy right now.

blueshoes · 19/12/2018 21:21

They might not be happy right now

Yes, there could be something going on in their marriage which is hindering communications between each other and with you.

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