Ian Huntley ! This is wrong...

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I just don't have words

Ah so, Sackrifice, can you tell us the thread title or link to it.

No you are wrong. He is very much a human and a male one. A violent male paedophile.
And men like him are finding their way in to the female estate through the wide open trans doorway.
THIS is the issue here.

sackrifice - you were even on one of other threads over the past few days

Yes I was. What is it you were actually referring to as I cannot for the life of me work out the point you are trying to make.

Verbeena
Seeing as there's at least one poster on this thread that was on the others during the past couple of days they at least know damn well they exist.

I was on one of those threads, but you were asked for links to the posts saying we thought all transwomen were evil - or whatever it was you were accusing people of saying, and you wouldn't link to them there, either.

The repetition of a lie doesn't make it the truth.

I was on one of those threads, but you were asked for links to the posts saying we thought all transwomen were evil - or whatever it was you were accusing people of saying, and you wouldn't link to them there, either

Yep, because when have linked you and rest can't see what's under your nose.
Even when people were actually saying they didn't want any transwomen at all in their spaces, because - men, you couldn't see it.

Where there absolutely, definitely were people saying that they didn't accept any transwomen.

This is what you said was there.

People saying 'transwomen are men' is not 'not accepting any transwomen' it is saying that they are trans, but not women, they are men.

Not quite sure why you keep misinterpreting it as 'not accepting', it's not about acceptance - we aren't here to 'accept' people.

Being a woman is not a club.

Karen White should never have been transferred to a women's prison.
That doesn't alter anything else I said.

Even when people were actually saying they didn't want any transwomen at all in their spaces, because - men, you couldn't see it

As in it was on the very threads too you were all on. So why link to other links when you couldn't see what people were saying on the very same thread as yourselves?

There are going to be more violent male sex offenders using the easy GRA to gain access to Female prisons either to commit offences against women, or to get an easier ride so to speak. It is opening the doors for women to be abused. These issues are real, and should always be discussed, not a groan and not another transbashing thread, as it is not! More, it is an anti GRA thread.

ILoveSooty Karen White should never have been transferred to a women's prison That doesn't alter anything else I said.

Same

Yep, because when have linked you and rest can't see what's under your nose.

Well, if it actually said what you're saying it said, then it would be crystal clear, wouldn't it? If it just said 'transwomen are men' or something, then that isn't the same is it?

This is the thread from yesterday that I was on.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3445268-To-be-shocked-that-Mn-has-been-branded-a-hotbed-of-transphobia

Karen White should never have been transferred to a women's prison.

If you are obsessed with 'transwomen are women' this is what happens.

If the phrase is true, then it is true of any man that says it.

Huntley included.

Whilst simultaneously have a pop at other people who do not 'accept' TW as female.

Precisely sackrifice.

Wonder why they won't accept the lovely Karen as a real woman?

If you believe TWAW they how do you decide where the cut off is?

OldCrone Well, if it actually said what you're saying it said, then it would be crystal clear, wouldn't it?

You'd think!

Verbeena

Saying transwomen are men and don't belong in women's spaces is not 'not accepting' them. It's just stating a fact. Men don't belong in women's spaces. Not even kind, decent men or transwomen. I would treat them the same as any other human being, male or female. But they shouldn't be in women's spaces. Because they're not women.

Karen White had committed violent offences previously, presented a risk and a decision was made without going through the full levels of discussion. That risk was demonstrated by subsequent events.
Saying that doesn't make me transphobic.

Verbeena and sooty, why are Karen White and Ian Huntley not accepted by you as women?

starcrossedseahorse Whilst simultaneously have a pop at other people who do not 'accept' TW as female

We can be against free for all self ID but not have a problem with all transwomen, even if they're fully transitioned.
You do you, don't accept any transwomen as women at all. Fine. That's up to you.

Verbeena and sooty, why are Karen White and Ian Huntley not accepted by you as women?

What, for another gotcha twisty twisty loopy loop moment?
No thanks.

sooty sorry. x-post.

So you DO accept KW as a woman then?