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Transphobia

359 replies

SardiH · 11/10/2018 19:16

I am absolutely disgusted by the vile bigotry and absolutely hatred shown by some people on here. I realise those people peddling this feel justified in doing so. The truth is the bigoted never see their form of bigotry as bigotry. Racists doing think they bigoted they think they have a valid point of view - truth is they are vile racists. Homophobic people the same. Sexist people the same. Mysogynistic the same. Xenophobic the same. And transphobic = yes indeed, exactly the same. It's very sad. It's sad for the people who hold such hatred in their hearts. It's sad for the transgender community who have to live with the consequences of such bigotry and ignorance and haterd and opposition to just fulfilling their destiny as they feel it.

I just hope enough good people stand up with the trans community against this hatred and bigotry and that we move towards a better and kinder and more understanding world for transpeople. We have made great progress with this over recent years despite the best efforts of some.

I hope those with hate in their hearts can heal in time and become kinder and more understanding. My wise old grandma used to say those who bear hatred of others can never be truly happy.

I know the backlash to this post will be vile from some. I won't be reading the replies. I have no need to.

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WickedLazy · 14/10/2018 13:32

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BumbrainusMaximus · 14/10/2018 13:33

The difference is fact and truth. Those things used to be considered quite important. No longer it seems. The TWAW bullshit is one symptom of this but there are others.
Perhaps all cultures go through these paroxysms of idiocy from time to time. On the whole though, I’d prefer to avoid it if possible

WickedLazy · 14/10/2018 13:33

Ooh sorry for the bit under the first pic that says "transpeople are so stupid". Would have edited that out if I'd noticed it in time.

LividAtDolphins · 14/10/2018 13:41

It seems like a lot of this "debate" occurs in an online echo chamber.

Hyppolyta · 14/10/2018 13:44

Strangely when women try and meet to discuss this in public we get events closed down, masked men refusing entry to venues, bomb threats, one poor woman even got beaten by a vile transwoman.

Women are being stopped, by violence, from discussing this.

Ereshkigal · 14/10/2018 13:44

No it doesn't. Feel free to debate the actual issues rather than write goady posts about FWR.

LividAtDolphins · 14/10/2018 13:46

Strangely when women try and meet to discuss this in public we get events closed down, masked men refusing entry to venues, bomb threats, one poor woman even got beaten by a vile transwoman.

But you're talking about extremists. Not the majority.

Ereshkigal I don't even know what FWR means.

Datun · 14/10/2018 13:46

Twelve million unique posters a month isn't an echo chamber.

Try taking this discussion elsewhere and you will get shutdown.

Ereshkigal · 14/10/2018 13:46

Feminist Chat. It used to be called "Feminism and Women's Rights." Much like feminism itself.

Datun · 14/10/2018 13:49

But you're talking about extremists. Not the majority.

They're not extremists! They are the people who have advised the government! TELI, Action for trans-health.

GladAllOver · 14/10/2018 13:50

And why are they rude enough to just plop their post down and say they wont be reading any replies

Because their ears and minds have to be closed to any replies that might sound too reasonable.

WickedLazy · 14/10/2018 13:50

Trans theory is pseudoscience, and bullshit. Not backed up by any real or valid research. Like the flat earth theory. You wouldn't compare people that think the flat earth theory is nonsense to homophobics?
Flat earthers wouldn't be invited to speak to the governmemt on matters of real importance. Or allowed to speak for non flat earthers... The whole trans agenda is fucked up. Penis=Male. Penis+dress+make up+acting coy=Male. Becoming a eunuch=still male...

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WickedLazy · 14/10/2018 13:51

*government

LividAtDolphins · 14/10/2018 13:56

Because their ears and minds have to be closed to any replies that might sound too reasonable

It's more likely because OP knew nobody was going to change their mind on anything and no good would come of arguing with people over it. Look at the number of abusive posts MNHQ have had to delete. That's hardly surprising either.

Once again, the OP was complaining about transphobia. If you are not transphobic, then there is no need to reply to the thread defending yourself! So many people claiming their concerns are legitimate.... In that case, the OP doesn't apply to you does it?

WickedLazy · 14/10/2018 13:59

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PerverseConverse · 14/10/2018 14:01

cabingirl how are transwomen not men? Or how are they women? In what way are they either not men or are women? I've not read any answer to that question in what is now weeks of reading about this subject .

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/10/2018 14:01

Once again, the OP was complaining about transphobia. If you are not transphobic, then there is no need to reply to the thread defending yourself!

I'm not a dog but i reply to threads about them.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/10/2018 14:02

What makes someone a man or a woman if not biology?

PerverseConverse · 14/10/2018 14:02

WickedLazy that first one made me laugh Smile

LividAtDolphins · 14/10/2018 14:04

I'm not a dog but i reply to threads about them.

But if I made a thread saying "dogs smell bad", would you reply saying "I don't smell bad! It's just my natural pheromones!"

WickedLazy · 14/10/2018 14:05

"If you are not transphobic, then there is no need to reply to the thread defending yourself!"

If you think humans with penises are male, you're considered a transphobe? Men can have natural vaginas, wombs and periods, the associated hormones, breasts, ovulate, become pregnant etc? No? But they can still be women, if they like stereotypically feminine things, or aren't masculine? Which is mad when you stop and really think about it.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/10/2018 14:05

But if I made a thread saying "dogs smell bad", would you reply saying "I don't smell bad! It's just my natural pheromones!"

Yes. Actually there's a lot of threads in the style of animals and toddlers...

You've read cutted up pear right?

PerverseConverse · 14/10/2018 14:06

I see there's still no logical argument, just the use of irrelevant analogies.

LividAtDolphins · 14/10/2018 14:08

If you think humans with penises are male, you're considered a transphobe?

I don't think OP said that. She did say she wants to "stand against hatred and bigotry" and wants people to be "kinder and more understanding". Which is why it's strange to see so many people arguing. Surely it is only the hateful and bigoted that need to defend themselves here.

LividAtDolphins · 14/10/2018 14:09

Yes. Actually there's a lot of threads in the style of animals and toddlers

I don't think you understood my point tbh.

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