AIBU to say this person shouldn't be allowed...

[ScienceIsTruth]

...to call themselves a woman. Not when they've committed such an awful, usually male, crime. Why are sane people enabling this shit?
I think I'm ready to get off this planet, if it carries on like this.

metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans-woman-pretended-to-be-a-boy-to-groom-a-girl-7994533/

I agree

A vile MAN

YANBU. Literally no one thinks this is a woman. No one. Not even Little Owen Jones. Not even Dr Adrian Haddock. No one. Everyone knows this is a man. This lying and gaslighting has to stop.

Just so people can see why I'm so angry. This is part of that article, and the photo is of the accused, Jacinta:

YANBU

It’s like some kind on nightmare parallel universe, isn’t it? To read about this vile excuse for a man referred to as she.

Yabu if you think Transwomen are women and if you believe in self id. Not all TW are as media and camera friendly as India and Paris - you have to accept them all and not judge on looks or behaviour.

And yet people claim that it's "unreasonable" to not allow trans people to use the bathroom of their "self-identified" gender.

This is EXACTLY why we don't want this.

The press have no excuse here. Little Owen Jones has to preserve his virtue signal at 100pc or he might just implode under his own internal inconsistencies. Adrian Harrop just hates women so he would deal with the cognitive dissonance just in order to be able to frame this as a female crime.

The press, however, have no excuse for describing this person as She. They are not legally required to. Nor is it truthful.

No, YANBU

This person shouldn’t be able allowed to call themselves a woman.

Or have their crime recorded as a female crime.

Or even be considered for a female prison.

Or be able to potentially evade DBS checks in the future by means of their changed identity.

It’s terrifying.

That there are serious, heavyweight campaigns which could result in all of the above and which are being considered and promoted by our politicians is even more frightening still.

YANBU.
Also:
This crime should not be recorded as being done by a woman.
This man should go to a men's prison (the report doesn't say where he's going, hopefully after recent cases the prison service will do this)
No one should feel compelled to extend him the courtesy of female pronouns.

And any politician or public figure who chants the mantra 'transwomen are women' should explain their position in relation to this case, and others such as Karen White.

I don't actually mind the press playing along with the pronoun nonsense though , in conjunction with the photo it highlights the problem.

The world we're creating for our children worries me. It's like something out of 1984.

Ikeasucks, I don't believe that transwomen are women. It's my belief that they are feminine men. I also do not believe that all the men jumping aboard the trans-train are genuine.

Is there a way of finding out for sure, how this crime was recorded?

So it's unacceptable for 41yo Jacinta to identify as a 14yo, and it's unacceptable for Jacinta to identify as a boy, but it is acceptable for a man called Duncan to identify as a woman called Jacinta.

Absolutely disgraceful. I would really like to know how this crime has been recorded and where this man will be going to prison.

Is there a way of finding out for sure, how this crime was recorded?

FOI request of some sort? (I've no idea how to do that).

It's a man. DNA testing would tell you that.

Just found another report which says he's in HMP Winchester, which is a men's prison. Good.

www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/16953087.jailed-sex-offender-jacinta-brooks-attacks-youngsters-for-a-third-time/?ref=mac

You do have to put past names on an enhanced design

You do have to put past names on a dbs check.

It's not really a case of being 'allowed'.

They aren't a woman. That is all there is to it. I can call myself a man until I'm blue in the face and stamp my feet and scream and shout and grind everyone around me down until they agree. I'll never be one though.

Man alive...what bloody world do we live in now when animals like him get to be pandered to and make sure he has the pronouns he wants.
Let’s keep the monster happy, for Christ’s sake, eh??

So it's unacceptable for 41yo Jacinta to identify as a 14yo, and it's unacceptable for Jacinta to identify as a boy, but it is acceptable for a man called Duncan to identify as a woman called Jacinta.

^^this. In spades.

This is what happens when you legislate lies.

How our lawmakers could not see this coming is absolutely bloody well beyond me.

I genuinely think it is ingrained sexism. No one gave a single thought to how this might disadvantage women. It didn't matter. So just didn't cross anyone's mind.

This is EXACTLY why we don't want this

Absolutely. Also, everything Datun just wrote.

He, he, he, he, he.

Not a woman.

Totally agree Datun.

Women don’t matter, when it comes down to it.

Anyway. Didn’t realise this thread was here and started another one:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3381778-to-wonder-if-anyone-would-defend-self-ID-for-individuals-like-this-tw-trans-related

Still waiting for someone to come and explain why it’s sheer transphobic bigotry to even think of questioning this individual’s womanhood...

Maybe Aunt Lydia is busy icing a cake?

YANBU.

But this is self-ID. Either self declaration is for all or it is for none. According to Stonewall, this person is a woman.