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Mixed sex scouts camping

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brotherhoodofspam · 02/09/2018 15:35

DD going to America for 3 weeks with scouts for World Jamboree next Summer and we've recently completed the UK unit registration form which asks which gender she identfies as, for purposes of allocating sleeping arrangements. I have a lot of sympathy for people with genuine gender dysphoria but AIBU to be quite concerned that 16-18 yr old boys could potentially simply state that they feel female and end up sharing a tent with DD who will be 16 at the time? I suspect the scout movement feel their hands are tied and this is the only non discriminatory way to deal with this but it just doesn't feel properly thought through in terms of protecting teenage girls away from home for nearly a month I'm pretty sure nobody in Dad's unit identfies other than their biological sex so I don't think it will arise as an issue for her personally but I do feel pretty uncomfortable with the principle and think with a camp of 10000 scouts it might be an issue for some. Did any other parents of jamboree-going scouts have concerns about this? Our AIBU and very un-PC.

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PositivelyPERF · 05/09/2018 09:51

How would you defend the position that you're a patronising and interfering arse?

I was just waiting for the abuse to start. It’s the usual way from TRAs and their handmaidens, when women won’t capitulate to the trans agenda.

paintedwingsandgiantrings · 05/09/2018 09:54

I was just waiting for the abuse to start. It’s the usual way from TRAs and their handmaidens, when women won’t capitulate to the trans agenda.

Isn't it just.

WaxOnFeckOff · 05/09/2018 09:59

My experience of scouts is that because they are already mixed and are used to allocating accommodation within a mixed demographic, this will be appropriately managed. They also keep similar ages together and are aware off and manage vulnerable scouts very well.

Succotash1 · 05/09/2018 10:34

As a parent of male and female scouts, I can say that the scouts do often have mixed sleeping arrangements. The logic is that if you only have one girl and five boys, the girl is 'safer' sleeping in the tent with the boys, than sleeping in a tent on her own.

If you can accept that, then you could say that it isn't essential to have separate tents at any time, although they usually do.

It can be managed by having a private space to change. Ie Once fully dressed in modest night clothes no different to fully dressed in day clothes. It also provides privacy for those of any sex who are uncomfortable letting anyone see them change.

FrancesFryer · 05/09/2018 11:48

paintedwingsandgiantrings

That's why every uk unit takes condoms and every scout is and to ask for them without judgement

So, you let the boys and girls share a tent then, do you?

If not - why not?

That isn't what I said. However as many have said it is allowed in the scout association and you are extremely naive if you think that putting 30,000 scouts aged between 14 and 18 in the same place for three weeks will result in none having sex.

It's called being responsible.

Oh, and in case you hadn't realised they don't actually have to share a tent to have sex

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