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...to think that if you repeatedly get your cock out in public (allegedly) you aren't fit to offer advice to government about whether women-only facilities should become mixed-sex?

270 replies

ArcheryAnnie · 30/07/2018 09:10

OK, I know IABU in offering a Daily Fail link, but the Guardian haven't yet covered this:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003331/Britains-official-transgender-student-officer-suspended.html

Jess Bradley was one of the very limited number of people invited to give evidence to Maria Miller's Women and Equalities Select Committee investigation, which kicked off the current proposals to change the Gender Recognition Act so that anyone who says they are a woman is legally regarded as a woman, even if they still have a penis (and a beard and anything else they like - saying "I am a woman" would literally be the only requirement). These proposed changes in the law would mean the end of women-only services and de facto mean all services, including hospital wards, changing rooms, etc, would become mixed-sex.

Jess Bradley was also until very recently a director of Action for Trans Health, an activist group whose list of batshit demands includes the immediate release of all trans prisoners.

AIBU to think that everyone in government and beyond (including the NHS) who took advice from this individual should now reassess the value of that advice?

OP posts:
JillyArmeeen · 30/07/2018 14:32

The desk in one of the pictures is very much like jess's desk.
Given that the statement jess made basically says 'I did get my dick out but nobody saw it' i think so.
And even if it's not, some of the stuff on the tumblr is pretty gross.
The statement makes no denial, and why the expensive lawyers, they have not been instructed to defend but to injunct the press from publishing the story.

Vickyyyy · 30/07/2018 14:38

The Government now needs to take a long hard look at how they have conducted/approached this whole shitshow, Maria Miller especially. All other parties need also take note, I don't think there is a major party (and FFS even the WEP) against this nonsense.

When you offer MRA/incels/predators to have a say in womens rights, how the fuck else was it going to end up?

I do feel this is the tipping point now, and maybe the battshittery will start to steadily reverse itself now and people will just pretend that this never happened at all Hmm

Vickyyyy · 30/07/2018 14:39

Hell, this is that bad that even TRAs do not appear to have leapt to defence. Even those who defended the punching of 60 year old feminists and berated people for 'deadnaming/misgendering' Ian Huntley.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 30/07/2018 14:42

I’d almost be ok with people forgetting it happened at all (almost), if it was what it took to make it fucking STOP.

Bowlofbabelfish · 30/07/2018 14:44

Carter Ruck have been instructed on the basis of privacy according to reports, not for libel.

Make of that what you will.

I would like to know who is paying the fees.

crunchymint · 30/07/2018 14:46

So that means, yes I did it but I want lawyers to stop the press telling people.

Bowlofbabelfish · 30/07/2018 15:04

I couldnt possibly comment on that Grin

The sun have published a blind piece using ‘a union official’ as the identifier.

There are of course plenty of other interests who would like to challenge the Cliff Richard ruling - it’s possible that Jess is just a sacrificial lamb in that larger battle for press freedoms. Which would have its own irony I suppose...

Anyway, well done the DM for their chutzpah in publishing.

Ereshkigal · 30/07/2018 15:04

Anyway, well done the DM for their chutzpah in publishing.

Agree.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 30/07/2018 15:14

Basis of privacy?? He waved his dick around in public and is pissed off this has been made public?
It’s like a retelling of Alice in Wonderland.
Keep your privates under wraps and they’ll remain private Hmm

PositivelyPERF · 30/07/2018 15:38

It’s like a retelling of Alice in Wonderland

More of an Alistair in Wonderland. 😁

StepBackNow · 30/07/2018 15:43

The office is no place for a man or woman to be wafting their meat and two veg about it. It just isn't. If it's something you do then you're an ugly little pervert.

DioneTheDiabolist · 30/07/2018 15:49

YANBU OP. Anyone who thinks it's OK to flash their bits is, at best, completely thick and at worst, a sex offender. And as such has demonstrated complete unsuitablity to advise the government on anything. Or indeed represent anyone, except perhaps sex offenders.

Shit, even my 11yo DS has more sense than that.

AccioWine · 30/07/2018 16:44

YANBU, and it is worrying that this is even a question.

RiceandBeans · 30/07/2018 16:53

OP You are definitely NOT unreasonable.

But this response rather dodges your point:
I think that in a consultation about self-identification it would be absurd not to include transwomen.

Of course one should include transwomen (although possibly not those who indulge in sexual harassment by exposing their genitals in the workplace). BUT

and this is the HUGE caveat that TRAs don't seem to want to engage with or listen to,
if you want to change the definition of "woman" you'd bloody well better consult with actual natal women

Imagine if a group of women decided to change the definition of "man"? What if we told all the male MPs that it was hate speech to talk about their penises or the dangers of prostate cancer, or male pattern baldness, or erectile dysfunction, because "not all men have penises."

There'd be uproar.

ShotsFired · 30/07/2018 16:53

Well, on the plus side I guess it keeps all the right on folk really fit, given the extensive mental gymnastics they have to go through to justify it.

PositivelyPERF · 30/07/2018 17:01

Well, on the plus side I guess it keeps all the right on folk really fit, given the extensive mental gymnastics they have to go through to justify it

Not to mention, the fabulous thighs they must have, from all the back peddling they’re doing, when reality hits. 😁

RiceandBeans · 30/07/2018 17:25

What I also find interesting - but also i makes me sad - is that the Twitter feed linked to above "No More Silence" is set up by a transwoman.

I imagine she's not the only transwoman to be distressed by this news: the actions of transactivists make life so much harder for normal ordinary transwomen just trying to get on with their lives.

The Tweeter calls herself a "survivor." I found some of the stuff -pictures & comments - Jess Bradley [allegedly] had up on their Tumblr feed to be pretty horrible. How much more distressing for a rape/sexual assault survivor to see.

RiceandBeans · 30/07/2018 17:28

Sorry, posting at speed - realised my last post may not be clear - I am sad & worried about the distress that normal transwomen may feel at this sort of [alleged] perverted behaviour by someone who claims to speak for them.

I think the Tweeter "No More Silence" is very brave.

20pencepiece · 30/07/2018 17:33

The Daily Mail has only allowed 7 comments to be printed but hasnt blocked anyone from making a comment. I bet hundreds of comments have been made though.

Shame on Carter Ruck for dealing with this.

20pencepiece · 30/07/2018 18:51

Nooooo I've killed a thread....again.

BeUpStanding · 30/07/2018 19:24

YADNBU

PeakPants · 30/07/2018 19:29

Not shame on Carter Ruck. Lawyers can’t turn clients down simply because they don’t agree with what they do. That’s the beauty of our legal system.

PositiveVibez · 30/07/2018 20:32

I just cannot believe this. It is so upsetting. Who the FUCK does Jess Bradley think 'they' are. Advising on what us women should put up with.

If Jess Bradley was an MP and posted that horrific stuff online, they would be getting interviewed by the police!

It's a damn disgrace.

They are a perverted individual and I would not want them to share a changing room with my 10 year old daughter.

PositiveVibez · 30/07/2018 20:33

This should be national news!!!!

PeakPants · 30/07/2018 21:39

Agree. But hopefully the more these things are reported the more people will realise the sheer idiocy of all of this.