...to think that if you repeatedly get your cock out in public (allegedly) you aren't fit to offer advice to government about whether women-only facilities should become mixed-sex?

[ArcheryAnnie]

OK, I know IABU in offering a Daily Fail link, but the Guardian haven't yet covered this:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003331/Britains-official-transgender-student-officer-suspended.html

Jess Bradley was one of the very limited number of people invited to give evidence to Maria Miller's Women and Equalities Select Committee investigation, which kicked off the current proposals to change the Gender Recognition Act so that anyone who says they are a woman is legally regarded as a woman, even if they still have a penis (and a beard and anything else they like - saying "I am a woman" would literally be the only requirement). These proposed changes in the law would mean the end of women-only services and de facto mean all services, including hospital wards, changing rooms, etc, would become mixed-sex.

Jess Bradley was also until very recently a director of Action for Trans Health, an activist group whose list of batshit demands includes the immediate release of all trans prisoners.

AIBU to think that everyone in government and beyond (including the NHS) who took advice from this individual should now reassess the value of that advice?

But plenty of cis women (apologies if you don't like that term - it's hard to find an alternative without using exclusionary language) and trans men and cis men have also been consulted, as is right and proper.

That language is exclusionary. Plenty of the women here do not identify as 'cis' and find the term being applied to them insulting and offensive.

Unless you're suggesting that those women shouldn't be consulted?

Perhaps if the only paper you can find that's giving you what you want in respect of this issue...

What about Bradley's own posts, TheShapeOfEwe? They not good enough for you?

I'm a woman. I need no further definition, Ewe. So don't cis me.

Whether or not it was Bradley's dick is immaterial in some contexts. The twitter account I read clearly referred to Bradley getting sexually aroused by giving and being given dares to expose penises in public. It was exhibitionist fetishism based on penises and their sexual arousal. My take is that if we are talking about any hypothetical individual talking about that individual's arousal vis a vis a penis we are talking about a man, but the issue here is whether it is appropriate to encourage or excuse such exhibitionism when we know that women and girls can be detrimentally affected by flashers and suchlike.

Who else do we ban from the democratic process?

Are you seriously suggesting that perverts and people who post pictures about child rape should be included on a panel that will give them access to women and girls’ spaces? Yuck. 🤢 I would suggest that you have a good think about what you find acceptable.

araiwa, you think a person who likes to display their cock in public should be a person of influence in a consultation about access to women's spaces?

Interesting...

Listening to someone does not mean you have to agree with them

Unless you're suggesting that those women shouldn't be consulted?

It actually says explicitly in my post that I think all women should be consulted.

What about Bradley's own posts, TheShapeOfEwe? They not good enough for you?

I was referring to newspaper articles, and the fact that I so often see critics of self-ID saying 'excuse the daily mail article but...'. I have a problem with people being willing to turn a blind eye to the disgusting prejudice and bigotry this paper displays to so many under privileged people because on this particular issue it is the paper that aligns with their views. I consider it astonishingly hypocritical.

Apologies to anyone offended by the term 'cis'. I don't use it of individuals as I know it upsets many. But it's hard to find an alternative that doesn't exclude trans women. I know you will view that as acceptable, but to my view it isn't. I could use transwomen and non-transwomen but this is clumsy and still likely to offend. Cis was invented as a neutral term to overcome this issue but obviously is no longer seen as neutral. It's a tangled problem where I'm not sure what an acceptable compromise is.

araiwa, really not seeing the imperative to listen to someone's opinion about access to women's spaces if that same person is also exposing themselves.

But, by all means keep arguing for it. It's such a very winning belief...

You can use "women" and "transwomen". There, simple.

I really, really hope that there is proper scrutiny of Gender ID and how it is already being applied - particularly in schools.

At the moment biological women - those who possess vagina, cervix, uterus and are paid less than their male equivalents due to their biology- appear to be disenfranchised from any serious debate around policy and how it is applied.

In Scotland the guidance is that as a parent I have no right to be informed if my child decides to change gender at school (god knows what implications that has for accessing medical records, granting permissions for school trips etc ) and if I question it I could be referred to social services.

There is no debate on this subject with any parents. My biology again disenfranchises me from even commenting in public as I will be burned as a transphobe.

Whilethis individual may or may not be breaking the law, they are showing a serious error of judgement. And therefore really are they fit to be advising government on issues that directly affect safeguarding of women and children?

In fact is there any transgender person truly experienced in public policy and safeguarding rather then part of a pressure group who can advise the government? If so they need to step up.

FFS Jess Bradley showing his cock off in public and identifies as a woman? Have I got this right? (Never heard of him/her before)

That doesn't work for me, because I consider 'women' to be inclusive of transwomen. I know that this position won't be acceptable to you but that's the issue I have and it's not one I'll compromise on.

Crikey shapeofewe perhaps take a step back and think about what you're supporting here.

This is a man who posted child rape and incest commentary and talked about being sexually aroused by flashing his penis.

Do you really think creeps like that should be afforded the opportunity to evidence how important it is that they have access to female spaces?

How about Ian Huntley giving advice on child safeguarding? I mean it's only an opinion right?!

Isn't Jess Bradley the person who was on tv saying something like we can't define what a woman is any more?

Regardless of the politics - he's been exposing himself in the workplace.
So, you know, should be charged with a crime, lose his job and be firmly placed on the SOR.

As a fucking man who has committed a fucking male crime with his fucking male cock

But plenty of cis women (apologies if you don't like that term - it's hard to find an alternative without using exclusionary language) and trans men and cis men have also been consulted, as is right and proper.

"Cis" makes my blood boil

OP you are definitely NBU

WonderfulWonders

I'm assuming you didn't read my posts? Because if you had you'd have seen just how clearly I've said that Jess Bradley doesn't appear to be an appropriate adviser and ought to be replaced. Please clarify how you've misinterpreted that as me offering support?

What I do support is transwomen being listened to in this consultation. Not this transwoman, but someone else.

Yeah seems some lady cocks like to get out and about, bus stops, work places , parks

But there is an ongoing investigation isn’t there? We don’t know the whole story so perhaps it would be prudent to wait for the outcome before we go too far talking about this person.

I would appreciate it if our politicians would not consult with a man who posts on a public blog about child rape and incest, dares people to masturbate while in the same room as their parents (and post the video), encourages (dares) boys to film and post themselves masturbating at school. He has filmed himself aroused and flashing on a tube, in a bus station, at his desk in an open plan office.

Yet Maria Miller references him several times in the GRA consultation - she took advice from him regarding women and girls safeguarding in women's only spaces. And I won't call him 'she' just because sometimes he wears nail varnish.

What I do support is transwomen being listened to in this consultation. Not this transwoman, but someone else.

Yes I agree. But I think there should be more opportunity for debate.

shape

Do you think here is a reason that despite it being women affected more than anyone else. That despite transpeople having exactky the same rights as everyone else and protected by the law, that they are still being listened to over women even where they turn out to be perverts...

Yet transmen are only of interest when they have babies.

I'll give you a clue it's because of a certain part if anatomy they possess....

It begins with p

So, you know, should be charged with a crime, lose his job and be firmly placed on the SOR

Being placed in the SOR means bugger all now. You can appeal to have your name removed and, more often than not, it will be granted.

Also, a warning that MNHQ will delete posts that misgender this delightful young lady. Yes, really.

Of course YABU silly women

A man who feels he is a women has the right as he has had throughout history until very recently to take things back to the way they should be and decide what is right for women

And what a is nonbinary trans women