...to think it's rude of teachers at end of term declaring that they've earned their holiday/deserve a large glass of wine etc.....?

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Does it not imply that they think everyone's kids are little horrors and that it's such a hard job and we're not worthy?
Maybe all the kids are little horrors, maybe it is a hard job but they're getting paid for it. It was their choice! My job's hard too but I won't bang on about It.
I think it's quite insulting to the parents of the children. No? [hmmm]

Not at all! What about all of the mothers who have a large glass of wine at the end of the Summer holidays and declare how excited they are for their kids to be going back to school?! Do they hate their kids?? Are they bad mothers?? Kids are hard work! Anyone who teaches a class of 20-30 kids 5 days a week has serious patience and I know when my daughter starts school I’ll be buying her teacher a well deserved bottle of wine at the end of the school term!! 🙌🏼

God no !! Give them all the wine they want .. by IV if needed !! Looking after 25-30 kids day in and day out - even if they are all darlings much be tiring!!
They say it takes a village to raise one child .... but between 9 and 3 it’s one person ( with maybe a side kick ) looking after that many kids !! I think they should up grade to gin! It’s no reflection on the children or the parents !! As I know parents who have bought teachers wine and said thanks for teaching my kid - you deserve this lol !! I m sure it’s meant in the best way possible :)

Thanks OP. That just made me laugh out loud!

It’s not about the children - but the paperwork.
I spend 30 hours a week with my children. And about 30 hours doing paperwork. During holidays I making resources, buying things (with my own money), daily planning, medium term planning, long term planning, topic planning, IEP’s, PPP, risk assessments, communication profiles, one page profiles, deep cleaning my classroom, reorganising my classroom etc.
Don’t me wrong - sometimes children (and their parents) definitely are hard work but it’s really not the kids.

But I will ask you this - are you the kind of mum who gets to the end of term and is counting the days till school is back on? Because after 6 weeks your kid/s have driven you bonkers?

are you the kind of mum who gets to the end of term and is counting the days till school is back on?

No, I think she's already smugly informed us that she cherishes every moment spent with her delightful children and cannot understand why any teachers might not feel the same way.

Eurgh. Smug mum can't understand why teachers need a break.

I guess you really have no idea what teachers do. I have taught and done a number of other public and private sector jobs. I can tell you that compared to teaching, the others were a walk in the park. In teaching, you really need the hols to unwind. During the term, it is v stressful.

They deserve more than a glass of wine, think of your children on a bad day and x by 25 5 days a week, believe me your little darlings are not always as wonderful as you imagine.

OP You must feel like such a twat!
Would love to hear from you again justifying why you’re STILL NBU!

You are being V unreasonable!!!!!!

Why are so many teachers leaving the job and not enough starting??? Because it's bloody hard work! They are educating and shaping the future and have to deal with all sorts of things every day with little or no thanks!!!

@WowLookAtYou I hadn’t read her replies. I have now - I think she’s being an even bigger snob now 🤣

She clearly doesn’t understand that in small primary schools you often have to take on lots of extra responsibilities. Small class sizes may mean that you don’t have as much planning to do but...you’ve often got a shit load more to do.

I feel sorry for her school. Maybe the teacher needs a break because they’re putting up with her.

I adore my daughter. She has ASD, SPD, epilepsy and a few other difficulties. I have severe PCOS and was told I’d never have children. She’s a miracle. But sometimes I contemplate swapping my miracle for a tin of baked beans. I dont like baked beans.

*shit load more to do because of extra responsibilities.

The phrase ‘get over yourself’ comes to mind FFS!!

Anyone who wonders why teachers may say they need their holidays is welcome into my classroom any day. I teach wonderful kids who I love like they were my own. It’s not the Teaching of these children that’s the issue - we love to teach them! We need a holiday because of all the additional pressures nowadays - paperwork, planning, monitoring, reporting, inclusion, continuous scrutiny from those who’ve never taught, an ever-evolving curriculum, CPD...... the list goes on. So Yes, we do need a break. If not we’d all be signed off work with fatigue, Exhaustion and burnout, then folk would have something to moan about.
Most teachers I know are paid for a 35 hour working week but work in excess of 60 hours. 6 weeks may seem a lot of holidays, but we don’t get Paid overtime. You work out the maths - those 6 weeks are our TOIL. Take it from me - Teachers LOVE to teach, but teachers also need a wee break ocassionaly. Please give us one xx

I was a teacher for 16 years. I wouldn’t go back to it if the salary was three times what it is.

I only have 4 kids!!!! I adore them through and through. They're my world. DON'T ASK ME TO TEACH THEM. I'd be in a nut house before the end of the week. The problem here is that we don't value the right teachers. Yes we think the year 6 teachers are great for getting results. Also the year 10 - 13 teachers. But hey! Lets hear it for the Nursery teachers and the reception years. They never get a mention! Yet its they who teach the children how to behave in close, how to learn. No I don't know reception/nursery teachers except for those who have taught my kids. But hats off to them for their ability to take 30 pre-schoolers at the beginning of the year and turn them into schoolers or almost schoolers with an adoration to learn, an ability to sit at a desk 'sometimes' and the possibility of cooperating with peers! Getting mine not to want to kill their siblings still troubles me even though they're 18 down to 8 (4 of em). So not only do I wish to stand in admiration of teachers, BUT I want it recognised that the early years are not mere child minders - they ARE the most important teachers of all! Seniors - you work hard and I wouldn't want your job because the teens would smell the fear - but OMG - to turn a child from a pre-schooler into one ready to sit at a desk, take turns, not crap their pants, say please and thank you and not beat the shit out of the child that's just 'taken (nicked)' the toy they believe is actually theirs! Well as far as I'm concerned - that takes courage. Personally even with my gorgeous wonderful adorable 4 - I'm sooooo NOT home schooling. So as well as singling praises to all teachers - personally I want to raise a glass to those in the early years! Bless you!!!! xxxxx

I would be embarrassed starting this conversation clearly they deserve a lot more credit and support I think the shortage of teachers and sickness
levels is evident!

My DH is 59 and just a few years off retiring.
He loves teaching but even though he has the benefit of vast experience he finds that age is creeping up with him and each year seems to be getting harder.
The new GCSE's this year all but did him in!
I have new flip flops and shorts waiting for him.

I've just had to explain to DD that the teachers didn't get overtime for taking her and her friends to Butlins for 5 days, they were working 7.30am - 10pm and still only getting paid for 8.50 - 3.15. She's shocked.

and yes - STOP GIVING THE PAPER WORK - why oh why do with have to bother with sATS!!!! Ugh!

Has the questioner ever tried teaching for a living? If not maybe you should. Often rewarding, always exhausting.

They deserve the holidays, triple pay and the wine.

Teachers deserve a massive bottle of tequila and a quiet island, I love my kids but 30 of them would drive me to the crazy house. I salute you teachers!

I was a teacher for a few years and it would’ve made me an alcoholic If I had stayed in it for the stress, the bullying (that’s from my department never mind the kids) the hours the thankless task of it and some of the parents blaming the teachers for the lack of progress of their misbehaving little darlings , glass of wine ? Gallon needed more like !

Oh FGS. The reason there appears to be a deluge of 'Thank god it's the holidays!' is that teachers largely all finish the school year at the same, unlike most jobs. And yes, lots of kids are great, but some are a total nightmare. I took my dc out for the day today and unfortunately spent the whole afternoon in the same location as a former pupil who had told me to fuck off in class and had tried to damage my car by pushing a supermarket trolley at it.

MN parents of one or two relatively well-behaved children are allowed to express their exasperstion at those children's mildly exasperating behaviour. Whereas apparently teachers have to put up with all manner of crap from 30+ kids at a time and do it with a smile on their faces, or risk being told they are cold, humourless bastards who should never have gone into teaching.