...to think it's rude of teachers at end of term declaring that they've earned their holiday/deserve a large glass of wine etc.....?

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Does it not imply that they think everyone's kids are little horrors and that it's such a hard job and we're not worthy?
Maybe all the kids are little horrors, maybe it is a hard job but they're getting paid for it. It was their choice! My job's hard too but I won't bang on about It.
I think it's quite insulting to the parents of the children. No? [hmmm]

It's the last job on earth I could ever do.

No question...holiday & wine well deserved!

Erm no. Can’t believe you’ve started the thread

I think you are taking it far too personally! Having been a teacher for 15 years I can tell you they are ready to stop with the office politics, paper work- endless bloody paper work, having to justify EVERYTHING and yes some kids are a massive pain in the arse

3 weeks/15 teaching days to go..... and six peaceful, bliss filled weeks off!

They are not bu or rude. My dds have had amazing teachers. The foundation teachers especially. I massively appreciate them as do my girls. Dd2 foundation teacher is the most charming enthusiastic warm lovely person ever I couldn't ask for more

One of my kids goes to a SEN school...

If you’ve ever seen how hard and enthusiastically the teachers work then you’d see that every penny is earnt several times over... every day off is more than deserved.

Take the drama teacher who just helped my 16yr old perform. She re-wrote a wordy song into a shorter song with less syllables but still in keeping with the musical so that he could manage it! She performed every second of it with the children! Mouthing ALL the words and using sign language to help prompt every word said and sung.

That’s just one set of teachers for one of my children. It’s a bloody difficult profession! But I also imagine it’s so rewarding... they get to watch and shape these kids grow up! I applaud every teacher! Thank you dear teachers xx

I think its a general term pf phrase for working people isn't it for those that drink anyway.ive heard some workers say it about cup of tea at the end of the day or changing into my pjs etc etc.its nothing agasint the kids just to do with being a working person that cant wait for a rest and relaxing time at the end of it.

I used to work with someone like you OP. Forever going on about how easy Teachers had it compared to " industry" To be fair, she trained, paid for , by work. She lasted her probationary year, then left. In her husbands words " she couldnt hack it"
Teaching is suffering from recruitment and retention. I dont want my children taught by Teaching Assistants ( no disrespect- they just dont get paid enough or have the qualifications)
or a constant stream of supply staff.
Until we value and remunerate the Profession this will continue to happen.As for the wine comment, how many parents have you heard moaning about having to look after ( not educate) during the holidays or saying they need a drink to cope...multiply that by 30, add on all the pressure to achieve and they can have wine intravenously if they want.

I commented earlier about the alcohol comments and would definitely agree that I don't want to hear it from the parents or other parents! But regarding the holidays are we not all just hanging on for them? The kids, parents and teachers??? These terms are long and the kids are exhausted and have had enough. They all need a break.

I am a childcarer not a teacher but even I look forward to my next holidays. Kids can be hard work especially when they are not your own!

Of course plenty of jobs are tough and people work hard but I am sure everyone else also looks forward to a glass of wine/holiday/the weekend and feels they have earned it.

OP, you obviously think we (teachers) should all be silent martyrs.
The vast majority of teachers care deeply about the kids and that's one of the reasons that the job is emotionally and mentally draining.
And yes, after about a week of the holidays, many parents are moaning about their own couple of kids and wishing it was time for school again. Not me, I love my two teens and love every minute I spend with them, probably because I am so busy in term time.
Thanks for all the support from everybody else :)

Up with the teachers, they deserve their holidays and wine! I work really hard too, but I don't envy them their job at all!! What would we do without them!!

Bloody hell. You sound like an incredibly touchy parent who no doubt thinks your little darlings are angels. You should be buying them wine just for putting up with people like you. Grrr

StillMedusa
Your description really hits it home!! Your child - whatever his/her level of ability - personal care skills, OT and development levels are transferred to the school that you have either nominated or been allocated. Your LEA has a duty to provide education for your child. There are millions of disabilities - some physical and some that are not easily detectable - but every child has a right to education. These children are integrated as much as possible into mainstream schools and your child's class teacher is probably constantly assessing the progress of all the children - and making recommendations and providing SEN evidence for many pupils in his/her class and ensuring the needs of each child are met.
You are one of these blinkered, selfish parents - your little angel couldn't possibly cause stress to a teacher - but the 14 other pupils could have additional needs - emotional, educational or physical, Your child may be perfect, but sadly the whole school isn't made up fo the ideal pupil - because everyone is different.
YABU
I'd send wine to all of the teachers!

Everyone deserves a holiday can’t think why teachers are any different. Most have had no pay rise in the last five years and with inflation and price increases etc that’s a pay cut, not good. If the Tory government keep making budget cuts to schools and screwing up the education system as they are at the moment there will be a massive shortage in teachers nationally. Maybe we may all value teachers differently then?

Maybe to you. It’s not cheap to us.

If you're suggesting it's all in a days work to teach other people's offspring who are often ill-mannered with no social boundaries then give them wine because seeing how some parents behave those kids need all the help they can get!
Btw, hopefully you're not one of those tiresome mothers who are more interested in their phone than talking to their kids?? When picking them up from school? Teachers, midwives, nurses, give them all wine!

They get some of those things. Not all. And I don’t expect teachers to be rude about my children. Or anyone else’s children.

I taught in Primary schools for 40 years.
In all that time, I rarely met a teacher who didn't love their children, and take the greatest pleasure in seeing them develop over the course of a year. This is the great reward that teaching, as a career, provides. Many a sleepless night was had over individual pupils, who seemed unhappy or who were not progressing, as expected.
However, these sleepless nights were never begrudged. For many children, even those here in Britain, a good education- and that includes their social and emotional development- is their passport to a better life. For some children, it is their only hope; and the teachers I know are very aware of this.
The reason we need the wine has nothing to do with your children. It is all about the hours of paperwork we have to put in, plus triple marking, and numerous other activities not directly related to /or necessary for working with our children in class. During term time, I regularly worked a 50 hour week, and sometimes more. My dilemma was finding time for my own child.
A significant part of the holidays was spent preparing plans, resources, new record books, text books, updating my knowledge, familiarisng myself with the latest government initiatives and endless other activites in preparation for the following term.
By the way, if you're thinking of a thank you gift for your child's teacher, can I say that most teachers are not impressed with elaborate, expensive items. My most treasured items are thank you letters from parents and children and home made cards, which I still have. My all time favourite gift was from a little boy who stuck a photo of himself to a piece of skirting board!!! I have to admit, a bottle of wine was always welcome....though absolutely not necessary!

No, not at all. Are you seriously telling me that when you have finished work on a Friday for a weeks holiday you don't take a deep breath, pour a wine and start thinking about a week away from work. Just cos they are looking after our precious darlings doesn't mean they are infallible.

On the other hand, do you (op) think it's rude for kids to be excited about their summer holidays and getting away from their teachers? I bet after a term of being in close proximity to each other they all probably need a bit of a break. YABU, it's perfectly reasonable to be looking forward to a break and doesn't imply half of what you seem to think it does.

YABVU OP. I would much rather the teachers have wine to destress and relax rather than implode from the stress of the job. Teaching is an incredibly stressful job; I know I couldn’t do it so fair play to them - to their wine and their 6-week holiday!

Let's get one thing straight here. Teachers aren't 'looking after' your children, they are 'teaching' your children. They are not babysitters having fun and games all day with your adorable cherubs! Mainstream teachers are accountable for the hour by hour academic progress of between 20-30 children with varying degrees of ability and needs. It is a hard job. Looking forward to wine and holidays isn't an insult towards your children, it's a normal response to a bit of well earned down time.
Please also recognise that a teachers role includes a huge amount of paperwork, meetings, data analysis etc. When I used to work full time in a mainstream secondary I felt like my working day didn't actually start until 3.30pm! It's more likely that teachers are celebrating the break from their extensive to-do lists. It's an intensive job that is all consuming during term time. Perhaps consider that teachers might just be looking forward to being able to spend quality time on their own families or on themselves for a change!

Ha! Ha! Ha! If you actually worked or volunteered in a school or checked what most teachers are paid you might re-think this post. I am a TA in a secondary school and most teachers have pupils in their classrooms before school and during break and lunch. They support individual pupils in their own time and run revision sessions after school. Teachers work way over and above what they are paid during term time - they work their arses off! They definitely deserve their break!
Sorry Im Truly not trying to be judgy or mean to you but I think this is a situation where you cannot try understand what is going on unless you are there.