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To wish the EU would throw us a bone so we can cancel Brexit

999 replies

Crikeyisunderused · 08/05/2018 07:36

They don't want us to leave. We don't want to leave. So what could Macron'n'Merkel offer us so we can say "go on, we'll stay together for the sake of the kids".

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AjasLipstick · 08/05/2018 07:39

I think a lot of people do want to leave though OP. I no longer live in the UK and had already emigrated before it all hit the fan so I might not be qualified to reply but from what I read in general, there are lots of people happy about it.

Pleasedontdrawonyoursister · 08/05/2018 07:42

But the majority of the UK want it to go ahead, hence why it is happening at all. Wether you want to leave or not is irrelevant, because we voted and we are out.

BartholinsSister · 08/05/2018 07:43

Wasn't there a big referendum or something?

Brokenbiscuit · 08/05/2018 07:45

Sadly, I think a majority of people in the UK do still want to leave, OP. It might be madness, but people do have the democratic right to make stupid choices.

MissGiddyPants · 08/05/2018 07:45

Who doesn't want to leave?

Yorkshirebetty · 08/05/2018 07:48

we don't want to leave most people do.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 08/05/2018 07:49

Hmm seriously?
Most people obviously do want to leave, that's why the result of the referendum was most people wanting to exit.

MightyMucks · 08/05/2018 07:49

Why do you think they don’t want us to leave? They did a very good impression of not being bothered before the referendum.

Merkel doesn’t want us to leave because she’s only just clinging on in Germany and the increased bills to them might finish her off. But the actually EU people seem to actively want us to go because it makes federalisation into a superstate much easier.

BMW6 · 08/05/2018 07:51

More of us( who bothered to vote in the referendum ) voted to leave, so YABU

whyayepetal · 08/05/2018 07:52

what brokenbiscuit said Sad

IIIustriousIyIllogical · 08/05/2018 07:55

people do have the democratic right to make stupid choices.

People need to look past the short term - that was always going to be painful. The Long Term goals are what matters....

And as for "Stupid", I'd argue that the majority are right.....

arethereanyleftatall · 08/05/2018 07:55

We do want to leave

StopBeingNosey · 08/05/2018 07:55

I’m constantly amazed by people still insisting Leave is a good idea. I totally get why people voted Leave, I nearly did myself. But to not see what an absolute catastrophe it is going to be now that its actually going ahead is madness.

And before anyone asks obviously I don’t want it to fail! I won’t be rubbing my hands with glee because I’m right when there’s huge inflation, depreciation and job losses. I’d bloody love it to work - I live here, always have and hopefully always will and raise my children here. I just can’t see how it is going to benefit us in any way at all.

unitedcountriesofindia · 08/05/2018 07:56

The majority of England and Northern Ireland voted to leave. Just under a majority of Scotland voted to leave. At least a third of youth voted to leave too.

The majority of British Indians voted to leave too (and note that most British Muslims voted to stay by a large margin, suggesting that a supermajority of British Indians voted to leave).

Even the youth vote is fraught with dissatisfaction at the EU, especially over things such as race relations, immigration, the Euro... so it isn't all that rosy for the hard core remainers.

Heyduggeesflipflop · 08/05/2018 07:57

David Cameron tried to negotiate that kind of middle ground before the eu referendum: the eu told him to do one.

The leave vote hasn’t been madness so far - the sky hasn’t fallen despite what the establishment claimed should have happened by now...

MissSingerbrains · 08/05/2018 07:57

YANBU

ImNotMeImSomeoneElse · 08/05/2018 07:58

'just under a majority' hahahaha so a minority then..

SilverySurfer · 08/05/2018 08:00

Not more of this rubbish. We voted Leave, we want to Leave, we WILL Leave.

sonlypuppyfat · 08/05/2018 08:00

I want to leave HTH

unitedcountriesofindia · 08/05/2018 08:01

@MightyMucks It's wrong to think that the rest of the EU has a strong desire to keep the UK within the EU. The country has always been half-out of EU mainstream thinking and has often prevented the EU from making collective decisions on issues and hindering further integration of the EU.

Germany benefits from the EU because it has historically failed to have a Germanified empire with German influences, meaning most of its immigration and economy has to come from Europe.

European borders are also full of Northern Ireland situations which simply inhibit the idea that Europe could split apart into little countries in the way the UK wants to.

Luisa27 · 08/05/2018 08:01

@MissGiddyPants

Me! 😥

I don’t (personally) know anyone who voted leave

I agree with @Brokenbiscuit too - although I’m still holding out hope that the majority of people vote remain if we’re able to have a democratic first vote on the specific terms of the Brexshit deal

ImNotMeImSomeoneElse · 08/05/2018 08:02

Oh, and Northern Ireland voted to remain.

Theworldisfullofgs · 08/05/2018 08:04

How long term is long term? It'll be about 25 - 50 years before there is any potential benefit. And likely we would have had more benefits staying in. They reckon 20 years to recover. It'll be at least 2021 until we leave properly and the most likely outcome is brexit in name only. Even some of the big leave components think we are in for a completely crap time.
Rest of my life and my dd's and ds's working life.

CiderwithBuda · 08/05/2018 08:04

I’m not entirely sure the vote would go the same way if the referendum were to be held again but then again it might. And as others have said the majority decision was leave unfortunately.

And it’s not just the uk who wants out. DH travels a lot on business and a lot of Europeans he speaks to (financial services etc) feel that if it were to go to a vote in their various countries they might well go the same way.

There is a lot of unhappiness about how the EU is run. It got a bit too big for its britches. The whole EU army thing which I think Junker is still keen on. Immigration is a big issue in continental Europe. Hungary have gone against EU and built a big fence.

I voted remain and hate the whole thing and am especially concerned about the Northern Ireland Issue. The Leave campaign didn’t give a flying fuck what would happen there.

But it is what it is. And the EU don’t have to give in on anything. Which fuels the Brexiteers.

KC225 · 08/05/2018 08:04

The EU will not survive in its current form. It will implode as there are more calls for leaving by other countries. UK is the first to stick its head over the parapet.