To wish the EU would throw us a bone so we can cancel Brexit

[Crikeyisunderused]

They don't want us to leave. We don't want to leave. So what could Macron'n'Merkel offer us so we can say "go on, we'll stay together for the sake of the kids".

Oh and stamping your foot won't make it any better.

The majority of England and Northern Ireland voted to leave.
Incorrect. Northern Ireland voted 55% remain

Just under a majority of Scotland voted to leave.
Incorrect. Scotland voted 62/38 to remain

At least a third of youth voted to leave too
Would like to see your info on this. The poll I saw suggested 25% voted leave

And the majority vote in NI was remain.

We do not want or need to be reduced to begging the EU to "throw us a bone". We are completely capable of being a successful independent country, which we were for hundreds of years before the EU existed.

With Brexit, the question you should ask is "who funded Leave, and who benefited?"

The list includes Putin, Hargreaves Lansdowne (spent 12 mil on advertising, made 400 mil on the sterling drop), tax Dodgers, racists of all stripes including Momentum.

Just under a majority of Scotland voted to leave.

Just under a majority of the UK voted to remain.Your point being?

The EU is a sinking ship anyway.
Also we do want to leave.
Oh wait, everyone who voted to leave did it because of a bus with something on it and based on lies didn’t they? Because they couldn’t possibly have independent thought.
Something about UKIP

Have I won Brexit bingo yet?

Ignoring the fact that it was a Leave majority, what would you have them do? What kind of "bone" should they throw? As a pp said the UK has always been half-in, half-out, you've had decades of politicians conveniently scapegoating the EU for the UK governments own policies and failures (and bought it hook, line and sinker). What special concessions do you think should come your way? And why?

We do want to leave - and there are good reasons for that.

If we got "thrown a bone" what do you think the next ten years would be like for us inside the EU having been humiliated? And inside the UK with the resentment of the State going back on a referendum decision after two years?

Think about it

@ImNotMeImSomeoneElse My memory failed me there. I was toying with whether to write Wales or Northern Ireland and chose NI (hence why the other one was missing).

2/5 of Scotland is still a large segment of its population, notably a the number probably represents the people who want to keep the UK together.

If you read opinion polls then you"ll eventually centre in on a-third. I think my figure comes from reading current opinion polls rather than the Brexit poll, which stands at 30%.

Imnotme

No - we had a national referendum - parts of the uk do not get to claim that ‘they didn’t vote for this’ because it was one national vote.

What next? ‘Little snoring will leave the uk because the vote of its 500 inhabitants not to leave the eu wasn’t respected’? That isn’t how it works

I voted to remain. However, the majority, even if it was close, voted to leave. I'm not happy, but to be honest, I'd be even more annoyed with a government that brushes aside the results, just because they aren't happy with the decision.

Interesting you say 38% is a large segment of the population but seem to gloss over the fact that the minority that voted remain is a much larger segment of the population.

Yes, it will happen. But don't try and sway thing with lies, trying to make it seem like the vote was more definitive than it was.

Nobody knows how the vote would go if there was another one, despite everyone implying it would go the same way.

Sadly OP, even if they were to throw us the moon on a stick, the lemmings would happily throw it back and continue hurtling towards the cliff. Such is the romantic attachment to the idea of 'independence' (aka in thrall to the US and China instead) in the teeth of all the evidence.

racists of all stripes including Momentum

Um, what now?

But mother, it says so in the papers. It must be true!!

I expect to be returning to the Uk in the next 24 months - if I can stay here that long- but I am not sure I want to anymore.
Then don't?

Brexit on the terms promised by the Leave campaign is totally incompatible with keeping the Union of the UK, and always was. Everyone who had tried to claim otherwise has been shown up as liars by the current stalemate over the Irish border - which the Prime Minister only has until next month to resolve.

Even the DUP are finally being realistic - they have said they will support "a customs partnership" (which everyone knows means something very like staying in the Customs Unsion and Single Market) because the only other option is weakening the U.K.-Union by having a border in the Irish Sea.

CiderwithBuda - interesting to hear that point of view. I agree. I spend a lot of time dealing with Italians, French, Germans, Swiss. (Yes I do know the Swiss are not in the EU but they have some very illuminating on views on what is going on as they are very closely involved), Austrians, Hungarians and to some extent Poles. And it is not all nice food, charming people and co-operation.

My own observations - although anecdotal and limited, obviously, include greater evidence that, for example the Far Right and some quite viscious racism in some countries is much more prevalent than it is in the UK.

The resentment against immigrants generally is growing particularly in the countries with low employment.

The poorer countries who are getting richer and now find they have to pay don't like it quite as much as they did.

Hungary and their fences?

Poland and the destruction of the forests??

Organized crime and trafficking?

EU passports for sale in Cyprus, (amazing how many rich Russians have EU citizenship for a paltry 2m Euros) and marriages of convenience are rife in Hungary and Bulgaria. It will not survive as it is - it can't.

Brexit is gonna screw ordinary people over.

There are other eurosceptic countries in the EU. Certainly the Danish civil servants I've met say their country is dissatisfied with the EU and would've be likely to vote out if asked in a referendum- not that anyone's going to agree to another in/out referendum.

The time to 'throw us a bone' was before the referendum, which they signally failed to do.

What motheroffourdragons said. We don’t appear to be doing anything to make it happen, let alone have a successful outcome (probably because that would be impossible). Everyone I know that voted leave either admits it was a mistake (they didn’t realise the unintended consequences such as Dave fucking off and being left with such political instability) or they say it was a protest vote and they didn’t think leave would win. Doesn’t fill me with confidence that the majority truly want this.