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To say no to summer holiday childcare even though she'll have to pay someone else

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CherryChasingDotMuncher · 07/05/2018 18:57

We have a neice who is 7 (she is DH’s brother’s little girl). Over the years we have looked after her quite a lot during the school holidays or when they have no other childcare. Her parents (who have been split up for some time) are always skint, and are vocal about this, which is one of the reasons we help out.

I don’t really mind looking after her, I only work 3 days a week and my own DD (5) gets on really well with her. I was on maternity leave last year and in the summer holidays I watched her 2-3 times a week, every week. I think it’s important to point out that there has never been an offer, from either parent, to look after our DC in return. when the schools are off DD goes to holiday club for £26 a time (on top of £50 a day Nursery fees for DS).

Ex-SIL is now a student and, like BIL, terrible with money. She blew her student maintenance grant on investing in Bitcoin (after it crashed) and on designer clothes for her DD (which are now being flogged on Facebook). She asked me to look after DN in the Easter holidays, to which I said yes and did so on my days off. She wasn’t at Uni but works in retail on a casual contract so was ‘desperate’ (her words) to work and earn some money.

When she came to collect her on the last day I looked after her, she was bragging about how her parents are selling their house and giving her her inheritance early, and how she is going to take her DD on 4 holidays (including one to Dubai) and put her in private school.

She does have a form for huge exaggerations so I’m not sure if this is true or if she will get the amount she claims she will (£200k). I'm not sure when this money is falling into her lap.

She has text today asking if she can ‘book us in’ now for summer holiday childcare, and said it would be easiest to know which Mondays and Fridays (my days off) I can’t do and work it that way.

WIBU to tell her to FOTTFSOFAFOSM? This may sound petty but I don’t see why some of us should have to pay through the nose for Nursery and holiday clubs, when she apparently has all this cash to flash yet wants us for free childcare. Like I say I don’t mind looking after DN, but it’s restrictive as we have to stay in the house (rural and car not big enough for 3 car seats), I make her breakfast lunch and dinner (paid for by us) and if we do somehow make it out we pay for activities, suncream, ice lollies etc. Not a penny is ever offered (but I don't begrudge it either). Are they (I include BIL in this because, whilst Ex-SIL orchestrates it, BIL is hardly forthcoming with gratitude or help) a pair of CFs, or am I being childish?

I won’t really to her to fuck off but I do feel like replying to say sorry can’t do any childcare at all in the holidays. It hasn’t been agreed beforehand BTW, I think they've assumed because we’ve done it every year for the last 3 years, we'll do it this year.

OP posts:
LaContessaDiPlump · 07/05/2018 19:00

I think you would be BEYOND reasonable to say no, and indeed you would have been reasonable to say the same for the past few years! No no nopeity no.

DelphiniumBlue · 07/05/2018 19:01

" tell me which days you can have my dc, and we'll work something out."

NeedForBlossom · 07/05/2018 19:01

Of course YANBU.

But doesn't it make it easier for your DD with someone to play with as well?

bastardkitty · 07/05/2018 19:02

'I'm glad you've brought this up now. I'm not going to be able to help this year so it's best you know now when doing your planning '.

NeedForBlossom · 07/05/2018 19:02

to have"

BakedBeans47 · 07/05/2018 19:03

I would tell her to go fuck herself, she’s a CF

user1471459936 · 07/05/2018 19:03

Say your plans for summer aren't certain yet, but you want to be flexible to have days out etc. As a compromise you are happy to pencil in a few play dates.

AnneProtheroe · 07/05/2018 19:04

You would be mad to say anything but NO!
Good luck though, be prepared to be painted as being the inconsiderate one...

Mannix · 07/05/2018 19:04

You absolutely should ask her to reciprocate with childcare for your DD.

HollowTalk · 07/05/2018 19:05

Why should she even offer a few play dates?

user1493413286 · 07/05/2018 19:05

Im quite shocked that they’ve never offered money to cover her food and any activities you do when you’re caring for her on a weekly basis; particularly as they never return the favour.
I would send her some random days that you can do, say a Monday or Friday every other week and explain that you’d love to see your niece but you’ve got lots of plans already so couldn’t commit to it weekly and ask for a couple of days that she can cover your childcare
I’m guessing they just assumed it’d be fine but her saying she wants to book you kind of says it all - treating you as unpaid childcare

Aprilmightbemynewname · 07/05/2018 19:06

Sorry but I have plans for my own dc the whole of the holidays.
And block her number.

Piffle11 · 07/05/2018 19:06

Yes you need to say 'no, can't do' and leave it ... you owe her and BIL no explanation. I find that people that work part time or work from home are expected to pitch in with childcare for other family members, pretty much without question. Do it now and you will be expected to do it for ever more. I can't bear entitled people like your ex-SIL, but what bothers me more is people who complain about entitled behaviour, but still give in. Don't be one of them - if she is going to be that well off, then she can afford proper childcare. This arrangement is very one sided, which is fine if you're happy and she/he is suitably grateful (and helps out in return when possible) - but that clearly isn't the case. Use your days off to do something for yourself and your DC.

bastardkitty · 07/05/2018 19:07

I would avoid saying anything about not having clear plans - they will just try to tqlk you round. You need to be really clear. If you want to offer a play date or two, offer set dates, but apart from that 'I can't help you'. 'It just doesn't work for me'.

user1493413286 · 07/05/2018 19:07

The reason I suggest giving a few random days is that it sounds like you want to see your niece

Imchlibob · 07/05/2018 19:08

"Isn't it your turn to have my DC this year, given I have had DN so much the last few years and you are no longer facing the financial hardship you were when I bent over backwards to help you out?"

pallisers · 07/05/2018 19:08

Just say "sorry, I can't commit to any days this summer. Best"

She and BIL are very cheeky.

ConciseandNice · 07/05/2018 19:09

YANBU. Tell her you assumed with all her new wealth that she was doing something else and that you’ve already made plans!

KateGrey · 07/05/2018 19:11

Beyond cheeky!

Cheby · 07/05/2018 19:12

YANBU. Wow. Tell them to fuck off.

YeahILoveSummer · 07/05/2018 19:12

Is she not off if she is a student? Also, surely between the parents they should be watching their own child during the summer hols! I would tell her to make other arrangements as you can't commit as your own plans aren't certain yet. Yes she is a CF!

YouTheCat · 07/05/2018 19:14

Surely, if she's a student, she'll be off through the summer? I can't see a casual retail job being more than a couple of days a week.

Maybe offer one day at the beginning and one at the end, just for the kids to play.

Sierra259 · 07/05/2018 19:14

If your DD gets on well with hers and you don't mind, you could offer 2 days or so and just say that sorry you can't do any other childcare. If they ask why, don't give any reason except "really sorry but it's not going to work for us this year". If you try to give an excuse they'll just minimise it or try to problem-solve it for "you". A point blank decline gives them nowhere to go without looking even more cheeky.

CocoPuffsInGodMode · 07/05/2018 19:14

Yanbu at all, talk about being taken for granted Shock. I'd reply saying that actually this year I'm not in a position to take care of niece but (if you actually want to) would love to arrange a couple of meet ups/days out for the dc to catch up.

You do however have to be prepared for the possible sulking/kicking off/allegation that she'll lose her job if you won't provide this free service. Have your responses ready!

achoocashew · 07/05/2018 19:15

What Imchilibob says. Sums it up perfectly.

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