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To think it's rude to not give a wedding gift?

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Choccolitt · 20/04/2018 18:26

I'll try not to drop feed. DH and I got married two weeks ago. I can't bear invitations asking for money and don't really like gift lists either so we didn't have anything gift related with the invitation.

We had quite a lot of guests for the day (120) and then evening guests too. For those who were there all day we provided a bottomless champagne reception with canapes, a lovely three course meal with unlimited wine, and then for the evening do there was a hot buffet and money behind the bar so everyone had 2-3 free drinks. I'm giving this info now so no-one says we hosted to get gifts and were stingy because we weren't.

We didn't want money or expensive gifts hence the lack of lists but to be honest I've surprised myself by how disappointed I've been by guests who chose to give us nothing. Some really well-off friends just gave a bottle of prosecco. I have friends who don't have much money at all and gave us a token gift worth about £10 which I thought was lovely but I am surprised some people came along to the full day empty handed or just with a bottle of prosecco. I can't imagine going to a wedding and not giving a gift.

Are people just so used to requests for money that if there isn't one they don't give a gift at all?

OP posts:
Shrimpi · 21/04/2018 10:36

@BuntyII

2 years ago. We didn't receive a gift from maybe 1 or 2 people/groups who attended, it didn't hurt my feelings because they weren't that close to us, but yes I thought it was rude and I thought badly of them. The same group of guests I later found out stole some crockery from our venue! They are wealthy, wealthy people just mean and selfish. I still wrote them a thank you card. Manners are important!

I don't think the bride and groom are "doing the guests a favour" (when they CHOOSE to spend money on the our own wedding day) nor do I think the guests should be "reimbursing" them. Someone else suggestion of "at least £200" seems bonkers to me. I would have made money on getting married and felt quite embarrassed if our guests gave us that much money!!

But you can't show up complete empty handed it's just plain rude. The only exception I can think of is a guests pay for everything wedding overseas (though I have to be honest, I think it's completely unreasonable in the first place for couples to expect their guests to fork out hundreds on attending their wedding).

I just don't think the guests are doing the couple a favour (when they CHOOSE to spend too much money on an unnecessary new outfit for themselves!) "I bought myself new shoes so I didn't bother to get you anything even a token gift" is frankly, rubbish!

Bringing a wedding gift is basic etiquette. It's not about how much money you spend but wanting to give that couple something, wanting to contribute to their life. Maybe that's really cheesy but if you don't like someone enough to do that, why accept their hospitality? I wouldn't go around somebody's house for dinner with nothing in hand, and that doesn't mean I think "they're doing me a favour" nor that I have to reimburse my meal! I wouldn't stay at a friend's and then whine about the cost of my train journey and use that as an excuse not to buy them dinner or at the very least a coffee if we went out!

We treasure the gifts we were given and think of the person who gave them to us every time they are used! And will do so for decades!

Gwenhwyfar · 21/04/2018 10:42

You said you didn't want expensive gifts, but then complain about being given Prosecco. If I have to pay for travel and accommodation to go to a wedding then I only give a small gift. If the wedding is local I give more because I don't have any other costs.

Inthedeepdarkwinter · 21/04/2018 10:44

I think you are being incredibly unreasonable. You admit the majority of people DID give you a gift- so supposing that's most people, that's over 100 gifts!!!!! How can you need more than 100 gifts in one day? Second, three out of the 120 gave drinks, such as prosecco. I would think that would be ideal, having a few lovely bottles of bubbly in for the next few months.

Honestly, this is utterly grabby. Most people did give gifts but a few didn't perhaps they forgot/a bit short this month, and spent all their money coming to see you. I can't even remember, in my small wedding, who gave gifts. Like others, I can't believe that's what you'd take away from your wedding day and to sit there counting up the missing gifts and how many bottles you got is sad in the extreme.

Gwenhwyfar · 21/04/2018 10:48

"Everybody knows you're supposed to give one at weddings, house warmings, birthdays. "

No, it depends. When I celebrate a birthday everyone pays for themselves so I wouldn't necessarily expect a gift. Some people bring one anyway or buy me a drink. That's fine.

wowfudge · 21/04/2018 10:52

Apologies as I haven't rtft but the etiquette is to contact the person who has sent the invitation (traditionally that would be the bride's mother) and ask whether there is a gift list/what the couple might like as a present. With the increase in couples organising and paying for their own weddings there has been an increase in sending wedding list details with the invitations, i.e. things have changed. Some people just wouldn't dream of asking the couple what they wanted and it's a fair assumption these days that no wedding list info means no gifts are wanted or expected at all.

OP you say you didn't want anything but are clearly peeved that you didn't get much - I'm afraid it's down to not giving your guests any guidelines.

Far worse than not taking a gift imo (and there's a load of etiquette-related stuff about not turning up to the actual wedding with a gift!) is the couple not thanking a gift giver.

Jojoanna · 21/04/2018 10:55

I have always given a gift at a wedding. If there’s no list I give a card and some money .

allthegoodusernameshavegone · 21/04/2018 10:56

I had, your presence is our present on our invitations and I was stunned and touched by the generosity of our wedding guests.

pumpkinpie01 · 21/04/2018 10:57

Im getting married in a few weeks, we have lived together for years , I didnt put a note in saying we would prefer money to presents because tbh im not expecting money, presents anything as weddings are expensive for guests too and I think its cheeky specifying what you would like.

missmorleyme · 21/04/2018 11:02

I think yabu expecting a gift, especially when you didnt put a gift list that guests could go off. You invited these people to your wedding to enjoy the day and be apart of your first step into marriage, not to give a gift. If it was a birthday thrn it would be rude to turn up empty handed.

Flutist · 21/04/2018 11:02

We didn't provide a gift list with the invitation because we thought it seemed rude and entitled to insinuate that we were expecting gifts. If people asked we told them what we'd like, but out of 100 guests, only about half a dozen asked what gift we wanted - the rest gave us what they wanted to and felt able to afford. Yes, some people did just bring a bottle of wine, which was fine because that was what they could afford. We actually told some people (who weren't well off) that their presence was our gift and they shouldn't feel obliged to buy anything (because we thought they might decline due to not affording a gift).

WeeM · 21/04/2018 11:04

I would never go to a wedding and not give a gift...regardless of whether there was a list. I would take a bottle of prosecco if someone invited me for dinner.

Ratherbehome · 21/04/2018 11:04

I would usually put money in a card in that situation but I have attended a wedding once and not brought any gift at all. It was bil and sil's wedding and they chose to get married abroad, it cost dh and I nearly £1k for the flights and accommodation (we had to stay in the hotel chosen as the wedding venue and it was an expensive one). The wedding couple complained about us for not bringing a gift, dh was not happy.

ChocolateWombat · 21/04/2018 11:11

No one is OBLIGED to give a gift. It is a choice to give one or not. That said, it is very USUAL to give something.

So yes, whilst it is true that people don't or shouldn't have weddings with the purpose of receiving gifts and brides and grooms cannot require gifts, it is also usual when hosting a big day out, to receive gifts and unusual not to.

Some kind of gift is usual and when accepting someone's hospitality (and as has been mentioned, this was a couple of meals, lots of booze and canapés - very luxurious hospitality) one would usually give a gift, even if there was no list - it is not beyond the wit of people to choose something even without a list.

When there is no list or suggestion however, many people lack imagination or organisation and the result is then lots of bottles of pro secco or champagne or similar.....and these are perfectly acceptable gifts. So a gift is usual and absence of any gift rather surprising and probably outside the social norms we would expect, but any gift should be acceptable.

MN can be funny about giving hosts gifts - it comes up with dinner parties too - people saybtheybwant tomgomfor a 3 course meal at someone's house and not take Anything and hosts cannot expect anything......well again, there can never be a hard and fast expectation, but that is different tomobserving social norms and niceties - and in my view, when someone puts themselves out for you and hosts a lovely meal or a wedding, it's nice and usual to give something in appreciation, even if it's small. Those who say that attending a wedding is already expensive etc etc are right, but no-one is obliged to go and again, a small gift is fine. If as a guest you feel annoyed by the cost or being invited in the first place and being there (and lots of MNers seem to see being at weddings as a chore not a pleasure) then simply don't go. If you are there, accepting hospitality, a small gift would be usual social behaviour.

Reasons why people might not give include;

  • being disorganised
  • lacking imagination
  • shortage of funds
  • purposely refusing to give a gift - passive aggressive thing
  • being v young and so not realising it's the norm

Apart from the last, the others are disappointing. Weddings do not usually occur without notice and failure to even manage to get a bottle of something, suggests the wedding and the bride and groom really are lowdown on people's radars. I don't really think the shortage of funds is a genuine reason, when a very small cheap gift or even something homemade would be fine and bearing in mind plenty of notice is given of weddings - even someone very hard up would scrape together £5 for a bottle if they really wanted to.......so there might be lots of excuses given for why people might not give a gift on this thread, and yes, there can never be an expectation,mbut at the same time, to think it's usual or okay to accept hospitality in the region of over £100 per head and to think it's normal or usual to turn up empty handed and not to WANT to show appreciation in some way (and this could also take the form of having made a wedding cake or travelled abroad for the wedding etc) just suggests a lack of social graces and awareness to me - we do live in a society where we shownappreciationntonhosts through gifts, however small....and when the hospitality is significant,mas at weddings, to not do so, simply indicates failure to understand social behaviour in my view - either through ignorance, or choice on one level or another - possibly laziness or in an intended way - either of which are disappointing in our friends and family,mso I can see why host was disappointed. She could not expect and demand gifts, but she could expect normal social behaviour from friends and family and when it's not forthcoming, it is disappointing,me specially when you have put yourselves out to provide a big occasion.

Slartybartfast · 21/04/2018 11:16

op perhaps they gave joint gifts which somehow werent obvious?

DailyMailReadersAreThick · 21/04/2018 11:18

Your honeymoon must have been spectacular if you're stewing on this two weeks after the wedding.

Allergictoironing · 21/04/2018 11:24

^And nobody makes you buy a "new outfit" or stay in am expensive hotel for a wedding! I think people are kidding themselves if they buy an expensive new frock and shoes or stay in a fancy hot and consider it some kind of favour to the couple getting married - as though they get nothing out of it.

Get a some clothes out of the cupboard or on ebay and sort out cheaper shared accommodation / drive home so that you can give the couple (who have forked out probably £100/head) a token to show them that you give a damn! ^

I went to a wedding very recently. Around 7 hours drive each way plus stops, so had to stay in a hotel for 2 nights - cheapest I could get was close on £100 per night (bed only) and was the equivalent to a bottom level Travelodge. Bought no new clothes especially for the occasion - the dress hadn't been worn before, but wasn't bought with the wedding in mind. Still cost me over £300 with hotel, petrol etc, plus an extra visit to the chiropractor due to the journey killing my back. I don't resent paying out to go, as it was a very dear friend getting married and she is more than worth it.

I did get them a gift - they'd said they had everything they needed but wanted a couple of particular (expensive) things so contributions to those would be welcomed if anyone did want to get them something, so I got them a voucher towards that. I gather some people gave them money (mostly by bank transfer), a few accessories to the main thing they wanted, and some just couldn't afford anything apart from their attendance but that was welcomed.

careerandfam · 21/04/2018 11:28

Firstly congrats! Secondly - you should have done a gift list. It's really difficult for people to know what to buy, especially if you've been together for a while. Gift lists make it super easy for people and you could have had lots of affordable options on there for all budgets. x

Gwenhwyfar · 21/04/2018 11:28

"nobody makes you buy a "new outfit" or stay in am expensive hotel "

A cheap hotel is still an expense!
Also, some areas don't have cheap hotels.
I was invited to a 40th birthday in Windsor. I decided not to go in the end because there were no cheap hotels there at all. When I found a B&B online I realised the taxi fare to get there would make it as expensive as the expensive hotels.

When I was living on the continent and going to a wedding in Ireland, I bought one third of the cheapest thing on the list (friends bought the other two things that made up the cheapest thing). The bride had said in advance that she understood we had costs to get there.

I agree that a new dress and hair appointment aren't usually necessary. I suppose they might be for some people if they no longer fit into any of their nice clothes.

SchnoThankx · 21/04/2018 15:31

I got married last year and didn't have a gift list. Some quite close friends didn't get us a gift and to be honest I did think it was quite rude. It didn't really bother me, I just thought it was something I would never dream of doing myself and I suppose I questioned the motives of the friends as it felt like a snub- it wasn't about the gift.

ICantCopeAnymore · 21/04/2018 15:40

How entitled.

You chose to pay for all those things for your wedding, not your guests.

If you didn't have a gift list, or ask for anything, people probably assumed you didn't want anything.

We didn't expect a thing when we got married. Some people bought us gifts, some didn't.

Doh9899 · 21/04/2018 15:48

Didn't want gifts. Complains at lack of gifts. Sure ok

AhNowTed · 21/04/2018 15:59

I can't believe some of these responses.

Of course it is rude and ignorant not to give a gift.

Money is the norm, unless there's a gift list.

The lack of a list certainly does not mean you being nothing.

OP you are well within your rights to feel hurt.

Gwenhwyfar · 21/04/2018 16:01

AhNowTed - what about the people who had to spend a lot of money just getting to the wedding?

AhNowTed · 21/04/2018 16:07

Been there, done that @Gwenhwyfar. I still gave a gift.

Gwenhwyfar · 21/04/2018 16:12

Well maybe you have more money than some people Ted.
As I said, I gave a small gift in these circumstances as well but it was worth far less than a bottle of Proscco that the OP is turning her nose up at.

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