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"Our customers won't do this because they aren't DECEITFUL" ??????

278 replies

SuitedandBooted · 01/04/2018 13:19

Yes, it is in the Daily Mail, but Shock

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5565999/Row-female-compartments-transgender-people-pits-Churchills-grandson-against-Mumsnet.html

Just how the hell can Serco vouch for everyone who uses this service?
Women will be perfectly safe sharing a sleeping carriage with ANYONE as there is a button they can press?

Hello Mr Soames, Real World calling!!

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LineysInTheSand · 01/04/2018 13:20

Man's an idiot.

StealthNinjaMum · 01/04/2018 13:25

I can't believe how far from reality that man is. Yup he's an idiot.

PattiStanger · 01/04/2018 13:26

Totally out of touch with any kind of reality

Roseformeplease · 01/04/2018 13:29

Found you.

hungryhippo90 · 01/04/2018 13:33

Wow, so lie detectors offered for all customers before travel?? I think not

Boulshired · 01/04/2018 13:36

I rather sleep on the roof than with a stranger but the vouching for other on basically the ability to pay for a sleeper is ridiculous.

Mumsnut · 01/04/2018 13:42

I despair

Juells · 01/04/2018 13:44

Sigh....

LineysInTheSand · 01/04/2018 13:50

At least this story highlights the problems with stretching self-ID till it snaps.

TERFragetteCity · 01/04/2018 13:55

If passengers are not deceitful why do trains have conductors that come round and check the tickets?

LineysInTheSand · 01/04/2018 13:56

Yeah, fuck tickets. Let's just have honesty boxes.

SuitedandBooted · 01/04/2018 14:00

LineysInTheSand

I don't think many people are getting it, though. I would assume Mr Soames is a (reasonably!) intelligent man, but he obviously sees no problem with men saying they are women.

I think he is like many people, whose only experience of Trans women is the gay, feminised men they know, who may well have had surgery. Men who are heterosexual or bisexual, and yet still declare themselves as women are not on their radar at all.

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BlackeyedSusan · 01/04/2018 14:06

if customers are not decietful, then why do they need ticket collectors?

VanGoghsDog · 01/04/2018 14:12

I love the idea of his "v attentive staff" working out if someone was presenting as the opposite sex - how will they do that then?

And, what will they do if they do realise? And, whatever they do, even just suggesting that, isn't that you know.....transphobic?

MsMcWoodle · 01/04/2018 14:20

Oh - so I can press an alarm! Assuming I can get to it during an assault.

Juells · 01/04/2018 14:20

If passengers are not deceitful why do trains have conductors that come round and check the tickets?

haha good one.

TERFragetteCity · 01/04/2018 14:22

Oh - so I can press an alarm! Assuming I can get to it during an assault.

It isn't really an alarm. We don't need them. We have very attentive staff and none of our customers are deceitful, so we disabled them.Hope that helps.

Jaxhog · 01/04/2018 14:23

if customers are not decietful, then why do they need ticket collectors?

If men are so trustworthy, why do we have women only carriages?

StealthNinjaMum · 01/04/2018 14:30

Obligatory link to the petition.

If you want women to have a voice before we lose our spaces please sign and share.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118

SmurfOrTerf · 01/04/2018 14:32

Can someone tweet him ? They can save a fortune by getting rid of ticket collectors.

turnipfarmers · 01/04/2018 14:52

Idiot.

misscockerspaniel · 01/04/2018 14:58

The comments - sigh. Idiots basically equating women's safety with equality and golf clubs etc. Twats.

britbat23 · 01/04/2018 15:07

What about men who get raped by other men in shared cabins or women who get sexually assaulted by other women in shared cabins?

Why do rapes by trans people monopolise the imagination round these parts, as assaults by gay men on young boys did in the 1960s...?

birdsdestiny · 01/04/2018 15:13

97 % of sexual assault is undertaken by men. We are worried about men and we have the right to be. I am sure gay men are worried about sexual assault too. Not sure how that's women's fault though or why that should stop women discussing their boundaries or safety.

TERFragetteCity · 01/04/2018 15:15

What about men who get raped by other men in shared cabins or women who get sexually assaulted by other women in shared cabins?

You are so right. We should just forget about everything and just..oh hang on - Do you think it is about the discrepancy between male bodies and females?

That male bodies are on the whole stronger and 98% of all sexual assaults and 100% of rapes are committed by men?

And until now, only 6 out of every 1000 rapes result in guilty verdicts, so allowing men to share spaces with women on their say so, will actually make it harder and more dangerous for women and girls?