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AIBU?

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Do we have to be friends?

265 replies

VinnyTheVagina · 15/01/2018 18:02

My AIBU is: AIBU to expect more from this person? AIBU to feel like we shouldn't 'have' to be mates.

Sister-in-law and myself. Two very different people. I feel like I do a lot of pastoral stuff - checking she and kids are ok if ill ; sending flowers/gifts when times have been hard; phoning in week to say hi; making effort at birthdays and Xmas (baking cakes, thoughtful presents); engaging in conversation when we meet and asking how things are going, listening to replies. In return, what do I get? Conversational questions never reciprocated, instead she rants on and on about kids, work, money, holidays, stress and never seems to then add on 'and what about you?' Thoughtful gifts when times are hard are very rarely reciprocated. And i don't give to receive. Phoning is sometimes reciprocated but once again I listen while she talks. It's not a conversation, more a soliloquy.

An example would be last weekend I phoned. No answer. Few hours later I sent a message enquiring about a meeting she had had at work the previous day. Explanation followed about meeting, outcomes, argument in meeting, then kids, then lack of sleep then blah blah blah, yadda yadda....Not once in any reply was there a ' you ok?' Knowing full well me and DH have stuff going on with work, kids and life. Funny thing is we practically do the same job but in different companies (HR related) but she talks to me as if I have no clue about it all. And of course her role is FAR more stressful as she is slightly senior in her role.

My question is: why do I bother? Do in laws have to be friends and make this level of unreciprocated effort? What's the phrase about squeaky wheels?

OP posts:
etap · 15/01/2018 18:08

Nah, don't waste your time.

pilates · 15/01/2018 18:11

Agree with etap, there are givers and takers in life

Lifeisabeach09 · 15/01/2018 18:11

You choose your friends, you don't choose family (or so they say).
I'd put some distance between you. Don't bother with her as much. Certainly don't put yourself out for her.

lostinspaceyetagain · 15/01/2018 18:12

TBH you sound over invested. I have loads of SILs- I don't chat with any of them unless we happen to be together- and then we all get on fine. Your pastoral stuff would be a nightmare to me.

theymademejoin · 15/01/2018 18:14

I don't think I've ever phoned any of my sils. We're all perfectly friendly and would chat when we meet up but that's it. I'm not friends with any of them. All perfectly nice women but we don't have enough in common to be in one another's lives if it wasn't for dh or db

A580Hojas · 15/01/2018 18:14

No of course you don't have to be friends. She has shown you that she doesnt want your friendship, so just stop bothering with contacting her. The gifts and frequent phone calls sound a bit much tbh. I barely speak to my best friends between meet ups Grin. I absolutely couldn't handle someone who wanted to be constantly in touch - maybe she views friendship in a similar way?

TwitterQueen1 · 15/01/2018 18:19

Oh you would scare me OP. Take your patronising, pastoral busybodyness elsewhere!

Sarahh2014 · 15/01/2018 18:25

I have 2 sil and I see them usually if I visit with my e.g and ds.I like both of them but I'm not mega bothered what they get up to and vice versa.It suits us all

Sarahh2014 · 15/01/2018 18:25

Dh not e.g

MidnightExpress1 · 15/01/2018 18:29

Tbh you sound very full on phoning all the time etc would drive me bonkers. Me and Sil get on well will go out with the dc now and again or visit each maybe the odd what’s app pic of the kids but we both lead busy lives.Me with three dc school runs and her with her dd her partner working away and work. I don’t even talk to my own friends as often as you do Sil

WorraLiberty · 15/01/2018 18:29

You do sound a bit full-on to be fair OP

Perhaps she feels you're a bit over invested and asking questions might encourage that?

Try backing off slightly and see how that works.

VinnyTheVagina · 15/01/2018 18:33

Can I say I'm not a busybody and I'm definitely not patronising. Pot kettle PP.

SIL and I used to be a bit closer then kids and life happened. We are really very different as people, apart from job and fact we married brothers. But I just feel I do all the running really. It's called giving a shit, not being a busybody. But when it's not reciprocated I guess I'll just not bother anymore. Tbh it'd save me a lot of anxiety.

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Sittinonthefloor · 15/01/2018 18:34

You sound a bit stalkery! Gifts when times are hard? Not something my family does! We get on v well and are close - but not on top of each other like you seem to want to be. I'd generally phone to chat to my db even though I do like my sils.

VinnyTheVagina · 15/01/2018 18:36

Ok, think I'll back off. I'm not over invested and I'm finding it hard to put into words the dynamic. I feel "inferior" to her in the family stakes and I do struggle a bit with 'friendships' - the expectations. I don't phone her all the time. We used to kind of alternate every weekend but that's sloped off a bit.

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VinnyTheVagina · 15/01/2018 18:38

Jesus. I'm not a stalker!! A gift of sweets when her dad was I'll to cheer her up and some flowers once or twice to thank her. Oh and a birthday cake I made on a special birthday. This is over the course of 10 years.

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MrsMozart · 15/01/2018 18:42

Your OP makes it shound like you're over invested, hence the responses.

Try backing off a bit, see if that makes you happier.

Rudgie47 · 15/01/2018 18:43

Op doesnt sound like a stalker at all.
I'd just back off OP as shes not bothered about being a friend. You've done nothing wrong.

Biocarb · 15/01/2018 18:44

OP can you please be my sil? Thanks

DriggleDraggle · 15/01/2018 18:45

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MidnightExpress1 · 15/01/2018 18:45

Phoning every week is abit too much. My DB wife I won’t speak to months on end my dh sis we speak maybe every 2-3 weeks but no long phone conversations. She’s trying to tell you she wants you to back off

VinnyTheVagina · 15/01/2018 18:46

Backing off, most definitely. OP should not read like a stalker. Like I said, we're talking over 10 years.

When we saw each other last, all Sue talked about was herself, her life, her job, the kids, her stressful life. I not once did she say 'and what about your job/mum/hobby?' or whatever.

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VinnyTheVagina · 15/01/2018 18:48

She*

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Barbie222 · 15/01/2018 18:48

I'd find that all a bit too much in terms of contact and convo. Agree she seems a bit wrapped up in herself but maybe she doesn't have the social skills for the kind of reciprocal conversation you're after. Possibly she's like this with everyone?

MidnightExpress1 · 15/01/2018 18:49

Because even though she is distant with you, you keep pursuing a relationship with her. That’s why people are saying your behaviour is over the top and your expections are ridiculously high.

Butterymuffin · 15/01/2018 18:49

I'd love you to do this kind of thing and I would reciprocate because I value it. She doesn't. So stop, and either she'll notice and put more effort in herself (or ask why you've stopped, and then you can tell her) or she won't. But either way you get to save your efforts for people who appreciate them.

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