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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Do we have to be friends?

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VinnyTheVagina · 15/01/2018 18:02

My AIBU is: AIBU to expect more from this person? AIBU to feel like we shouldn't 'have' to be mates.

Sister-in-law and myself. Two very different people. I feel like I do a lot of pastoral stuff - checking she and kids are ok if ill ; sending flowers/gifts when times have been hard; phoning in week to say hi; making effort at birthdays and Xmas (baking cakes, thoughtful presents); engaging in conversation when we meet and asking how things are going, listening to replies. In return, what do I get? Conversational questions never reciprocated, instead she rants on and on about kids, work, money, holidays, stress and never seems to then add on 'and what about you?' Thoughtful gifts when times are hard are very rarely reciprocated. And i don't give to receive. Phoning is sometimes reciprocated but once again I listen while she talks. It's not a conversation, more a soliloquy.

An example would be last weekend I phoned. No answer. Few hours later I sent a message enquiring about a meeting she had had at work the previous day. Explanation followed about meeting, outcomes, argument in meeting, then kids, then lack of sleep then blah blah blah, yadda yadda....Not once in any reply was there a ' you ok?' Knowing full well me and DH have stuff going on with work, kids and life. Funny thing is we practically do the same job but in different companies (HR related) but she talks to me as if I have no clue about it all. And of course her role is FAR more stressful as she is slightly senior in her role.

My question is: why do I bother? Do in laws have to be friends and make this level of unreciprocated effort? What's the phrase about squeaky wheels?

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Lizzie48 · 18/01/2018 11:27

Anyway this situation looks like it's resolved itself.

I'm sorry for offending you. But you must surely agree that this place becomes like the playground, with insults being thrown around and ganging up on OPs, or other posters on the thread, who we think are unreasonable? There's a tendency to get carried away, and I admit I did the same this time. I don't know what else you expect me to say.

Ironically, I mostly agreed that the OP was trying too hard, and said as much, I just tried to be as gentle as possible.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 18/01/2018 11:38

I'm not offended, I was talking about the throwing around of serious terms like 'abusive' for something that just isn't that. It's not on.

Posters can post how they want to within guidelines. I don't see anything horrid on this thread as I've already said. There's no board monitor here.

We're all different; I'm not a head-patter by nature, I'm pragmatic. This just looks like an easily solved problem to me. Other posters will think differently and that's fine.

Lizzie48 · 18/01/2018 12:03

Okay, let's not derail the thread any longer. It's possible the popular girl and teenager comment was simply a trigger from when I was that bullied teenager sticking with the popular girl, hence my overreaction. (She ended up being expelled and then in prison later, so being popular in school definitely isn't everything, as I've now learned.)

That's the problem with a forum like this, everyone has their own issues and you don't know what other people on here will react to.

But I suggest we drop this. We've both said our piece, what else can we say??

Barbie222 · 18/01/2018 12:11

We are all a product of our own experiences, and it's good to hear all the sides of life.

Lizzie48 · 18/01/2018 12:25

That's true, Barbie222, it's why I do love being on mumsnet for the most part. Smile

VinnytheVagina · 21/01/2018 10:43

It's me again. So this is a classic example of the anxiety I get. Not spoken to SIL for couple of weeks. In a brief message exchange yesterday, initiated by her, she said 'catch you soon.' Now I'm a grown up but I do get socially anxious. Does this message infer that I leave it to her to make the next contact? I know many of you will think I'm overthinking stuff but this is my brain.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 21/01/2018 10:48

I think that just means that one or other of you will have something you need to tell each other about and that person will ring. it's a non-stressful way of ending a call with a 'speak to you whenever', it's not time-based. That's all.

WhatWouldOliviaPopeDo · 21/01/2018 11:03

If she initiated contact this time, leave her to do it again. Clearly she's perfectly able and willing to make the first move, so enjoy taking the power back a bit. The more times you let her do the running, the easier it will get and the less time you'll spend trying to analyse her messages.

VinnytheVagina · 21/01/2018 11:03

Why do I find this shit so hard?!

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WhatWouldOliviaPopeDo · 21/01/2018 11:10

Because, like you say, this is the way your brain works. A few years back I was diagnosed with Anticipatory Anxiety, which meant I would catastrophise events before they happened. I'd even practise conversations in my head before I had them and would get so stressed with it all. My GP referred me for CBT in the end - that's how I found out it had a name - and while I'm a billion times better I still have moments because that's how my brain works. So go easy on yourself, you're doing great. Coming on this forum and asking for help was the first big step. Flowers

LiveLifeWithPassion · 21/01/2018 14:27

I agree with LyingWitch.
To me this would mean that she’s not expecting any contact until there’s a reason for either of you to make contact.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 23/01/2018 22:45

Is it everything that makes you anxious or Just this relationship ? I am not having a dig as I can get crazy anxious too . But I really think you might need to go on a diet and have some head space from her . Just stop initiating contact for a while and take it from there op . I don’t mean to blank her but give yourself headspace and have a break . Sometimes things can get out of proportion stressful and a break would do you good

Lovelymess · 28/01/2018 12:00

You sound lovely but a bit full on. Maybe she's just busy and doesn't have the time for it? I wouldn't ring or text until she does for a while x

VinnytheVagina · 15/06/2019 21:10

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VinnytheVagina · 15/06/2019 21:11

Just re reading all this. Contact has drizzled into once a month maximum now and I'm a lot happier for it. Sil stills gets on my tits but the anxiety about our relationship has gone, mostly.

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