To think MMHQ are more trigger happy these days?

[raisinsarenottheonlyfruit]

Not a TAAT as such - more about moderation in general.

Is it just me or are MN much quicker to delete threads these days?

There have been a few examples recently where the thread had taken an odd turn - but which could have been solved by deletions or posdibly even a stern but the whole thread has been pulled, despite the thread containing useful advice.

Is this a new policy? Or are there a couple of new mods who are more likely to pull threads?

AIBU to think this is happening and it's a shame if so?

[Gwenhwyfar]

Here is the link to my thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3127351-Threads-being-deleted-all-the-time?pg=2

There were no fake stories or vulnerable OPs on that thread, only complaints by some posters that others were being mean to them.

[Mumof56]

@Dippingmytoesin

And I can post whatever I like

It's a bit of an odd way to spend a Friday night. And the irony of you coming on here calling others goady, when you have whole threads about other people.

[NotYetMadeYourMindUp]

MN is troll central so it's about time they did something.

[Coconutspongexo]

Not how I spent my Friday night it was Friday day time. Judge how I spend my days/evenings however you want hon

[Tipsntoes]

I don't like the way certain topics are practically banned. Anything that might be a platform for racists, for example, is highly likely to be pulled. IMO, it's those kinds of threads that we need, so right-minded MNetters can argue against them. If their platform is removed every time they try to express (in their mind) a perfectly reasonable view, those views become more and more entrenched. They should be discussed. There are enough sensible people here that the overwhelming number of responses would be putting those people in their place.

I also think the definition of Trolling seems to have changed. Nasty trolls should go, of course, but I don't see the harm in inventing or elaborating a story for entertainment purposes.

As for the Daily Mail, deplorable publication that it is, I don't understand why it matters if posts here end up in the paper, all the information is already readily available on the internet. If it's not for publication, don't publish it.

[londonista]

OP I think this thread is a case in point. Because of just 2 posters it will also get pulled.

Hey MNHQ before you pull this thread could you let us know whether you have indeed changed/tightened up your moderating policies?

[Coconutspongexo]

it’ll get pulled simply for the mention of reddit not just because of 2 posters. Any time reddit is mentioned a thread gets deleted

[londonista]

Tips, speaking personally I don't always think that what I reveal about myself is going to end up in a hate-rag. Naive I know. (Not said sarcastically- it is naive!)

[RedDogsBeg]

londonista I can understand why MNHQ pulled that thread rather than edit the OP's words because they would also have to delete/edit all the posts which referred to what the OP originally said otherwise you'd have had numerous posts asking "what did the OP say?" or picking up from other posts what she said and then continuing the verbal bashing for those words even though they were no longer there.

I think MNHQ have been too slow or reluctant to delete threads in the past and it has allowed AIBU to become an absolute bear pit and that attitude has seeped into other parts of the forum. There is no need for the tone and wording of some of the responses nor is there any need for 100's of posters to repeat and up the ante by trying to outdo those responses.

[Gwenhwyfar]

"I don't like the way certain topics are practically banned. "

I don't know. I think in a way it would be easier to ban certain topics than to delete a whole thread because there were one or two posts about those topics. Some issues do seem to be highly inflammatory on here and maybe should get their own topic or something. You know that once certain topics are raised the thread will be deleted and you'll lose the interesting conversations. Some people deliberately go to those topics to cause maximum upset and when MN start seeing lots of posts being reported they give up on deleting posts and end up deleting the thread using the excuse that they don't want the thread to look like Swiss cheese.

[Weezol]

Crazy I reported that thread myself, out of concern for the OP primarily. Was more or less told 'calm down dear' by mods, then a couple of days later it disappeared. Glad it wasn't just me!

FWIW I have been a moderator on a chatboard. We leaned toward post deletions with a warning message to the poster. We mostly applied this to derailers and GF and it worked well. Trolls and persistent offenders were blocked.

[londonista]

RedDogs true, although she was pretty quick to email them to ask them to edit it out. The very first response was negative!

Fair point tho, I've seen deletions before when they've said it was easier to delete the entire thread than leaving it looking like Swiss cheese.

[PatchworkGirl]

I'm new here - thought I would try out a different forum for a change of 'scenery' - and have been dismayed at how quickly things get deleted. I noticed earlier today that of the 10 threads I had followed, 3 had been deleted when I went back to read the updates (I didn't say anything awful on them, I promise!).

I guess they broke rules, got too heated, or went off topic but it's a shame that interesting discussions disappear so fast. Are threads ever just locked/blocked from further comment on here, or is deletion the 'go to' response?

[Spikeyball]

It's a combination of people asking to have stuff removed because of people using the get out clause of it being identifying and there being particularly thick trolls.

[londonista]

Weezol I think the one that initially prompted the OP to start this thread, the hairdresser one, that is a good example when they pulled it for the sake of the OP. He was clearly very upset at some of the more antagonistic responses, so they prob did him a favour.

Can they just turn off comments or do they have to delete the entire thread?

[YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet]

Hi folks, thanks for your comments.

We do appreciate that when you're following a thread, it can be really annoying when we zap it. If a thread is generating lots of reports, is upsetting quite a few MNers and we can see it's rapidly going downhill, then often the best thing to do is get rid of it- otherwise it will continue to cause upset and in our experience, often takes a turn for the worse and ends up being deleted anyway.

When an OP wants their thread deleted, more often that not, we will push back. We do look at each of these cases in turn and try and make an informed decision. It's certainly not an exact science, and we don't make the right call every time, but we try and do what's right by the OP and other MNers.

If you have any questions about any aspect of our moderation, drop us a line at [email protected] and we'll be happy to chat to you.

Thanks
MNHQ

[WhatALoadOfOldBollocks]

I agree with every word of your post Tipsntoes. I don't see the problem with MN content being used elsewhere, or if threads aren't 100% real.

Tips, speaking personally I don't always think that what I reveal about myself is going to end up in a hate-rag. Naive I know.
Anything you post online will be accessible all over the world to anyone with internet access. Anyone not happy with that concept should just be very careful what they post or not post at all.

[RedDogsBeg]

The trope about there being 'good advice' on a pulled thread is very lame in my opinion, what good advice is there when the thread is just full of posters verbally tearing lumps out of the OP? How does anyone benefit from that?

[Gwenhwyfar]

"If a thread is generating lots of reports, is upsetting quite a few MNers"

But if some MNers are upset, why don't they just ignore the thread? Why should they be allowed to spoil it for everyone else? If the thread is still going there are obviously people enjoying it as well. Why do the complainers have the upper hand?

[ChristmasTablecloth]

People have been complaining about this for quite a while

April 2017

January 2017

In the April thread Lorna said they were going to be discussing it "in office shortly" and that they would feedback. I wonder if that happened?

[Battleax]

It's a bit of an odd way to spend a Friday night. And the irony of you coming on here calling others goady, when you have whole threads about other people.

Huh?

Is there a thread about you on /r/MNTrolls Mumof56?! (Or do you mean generally?)

[PatchworkGirl]

Looks like people also get upset when threads they are interested in are deleted.

[ChristmasTablecloth]

I agree with londonista.

[Mumof56]

@Battleax

about me started by Dippingmytoesin.