To not understand why people don't understand men cannot be raped by a woman?

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I've read a lot whenever this comes up on here or elsewhere, that it's 'terrible' and such an outdated view. Why is it? Why can't people understand what rape is? Men can be sexually assaulted by women, but not raped.

Because the idea is still one party forcing sex- why is it less serious Because the victim is a male?

Because people use "rape" to mean "having sex without the other person's consent" as opposed to worrying about the actual legal definition?

Under UK law, a man cannot technically be raped by a woman. However, if a male victim of sexual assault chose to define himself as being raped, I personally wouldn't feel it was my place to question that, just as I wouldn't question a woman who was assaulted digitally or with an object and chose to define that as rape.

No, the idea requires a penis. It isn't less serious. Sexual assault by penetration can hold the same sentencing.

Rape means unwanted penetration with a PENIS. So a woman cannot rape a man.

If you are going to berate others for misunderstanding, make sure you haven't got your own point entirely wrong.

Oh god sorry, I am agreeing with you, I read it wrong. Many apologies!

I haven't got my point wrong?

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I obviously don't mean by victims, but people do tend to sprout that it's unfair and outdated.

Because they use the laymans definition rather than the legal one.

In a similar way I wouldn't be jumping up and down to correct women if I was in Canada and they were describing their experiences of being raped just because there's no offence of "rape" in Canadian law.

I'd understand the point of their discussion rather than trying to wade in with legal corrections.

Agree with Peachgreen.

I wouldn’t be inclined to start nit picking the legal definition with any man who told me he’d been raped.

Please can people understand what I'm saying? People (not victims) say the law is unfair. Hence I'm speaking of the legal definition.

I'm not talking about victims who are describing what happened to them.

Of course they can. Imaginary scenario;

Teenage boy, forcefully held down by a group of older women who aggressively insert sex toy into his bum without his consent, him crying in pain, begging them to stop. Would that not be rape? If you don't think so you are deluded.

@mothertruck3r I'm not deluded. That's sexual assault by penetration. Not rape.

The law needs to be changed. Any form of forced penetration should be classed as rape. Why should women get more lenient sentences because they don't have a penis if they use an object it causes just as much physical and emotional pain as a penis.
Same with men.
My friends husband would use a beer bottle in her if he was too drunk to get it up but she couldn't class that as rape and sexual assault usually has a much lesser penalty.

Nuts

Rape requires a penis but sexual assault by penetration can be committed with anything, vaginally or an ally. And it carries the same maximum - life.

I don't suppose it is often committed by women on men but it obviously can be.

I'm glad someone understands the terminology matters so much more than a man being sexually assaulted. It is of the highest importance that a man can never feel like his ordeal is actually a rape. Let's fight about words instead of realising that a man who is anally penetrated by wathever it is will feel as raped as a woman penetrated by a penis.

@Willow2017 loads of women are victims of sexual assault by penetration by men too, it is just a different crime. It's bizarre you don't understand how a penis is different.

These are the views I'm talking about.

@Bunnyhipsdontliegrl where did I say they don't?

I agree with you Willow.

Crackers

Exactly @Andrewofgg

@mothertruck3r no, that’s scenario would be indecent assault.

A penis IS needed for the offence of rape to be complete.

there's no offence of "rape" in Canadian law

Wow, I had no idea. What is the offence of forced sex/penetration by a penis called in Canada?

I'm also amazed that very few people realise that rape within marriage only became a crime in the UK around 1990.