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17 year old girl walking home sexually assaulted by multiple, unconnected men

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NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 10:15

An absolutely horrendous case in which a 17 year old girl trying to get home on a night out was subject to multiple serious sexual assaults it seems by men completely unconnected to one another. What does this say about society, that different men in a small geographical location within the space of an hour all had such contempt for women and girls they chose to commit these abhorrent attacks on her? It's hideous. I don't usually start threads in this section of the board but I feel so enraged by these attacks and feel more should be aware of this misogyny.

[http://news.met.police.uk/news/appeal-after-woman-sexually-assaulted-by-multiple-suspects-following-night-out-267602]

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stopfuckingshoutingatme · 13/10/2017 22:00

I don't know what to make of it all really
It's like the peadophile situation - was it always this bad or just do we just know more

I do think there is something in the demographic of that neighbourhood . These are angry , feral ,hate filled men . And I also know that the football hooligans and their ilk are Caucasian . But Tower hamlets is full of poverty and anger right now.

A dark day

The other story that's haunted me is that policewoman . 3 kids . Worked with rape victims . And her husband killed her

It's reallly hard not to feel hate for the male race sometimes when we read these awful tales

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 13/10/2017 22:03

As that abuse book states . There is no race or nationality where there isn't spousal abuse . Not a single fucking one

Pigface1 · 13/10/2017 22:47

I think there is a legitimate discussion to be had about the implications of multiculturalism for women's rights. And I think people shouldn't be afraid to have that conversation - but it's a separate one.

I really can see why people want to believe it's a 'tiny minority of men', because the truth is terrifying to contemplate - especially if you have a daughter. But it isn't a tiny minority of men. It's endemic. It's happening in every town and city, every single night. And to dismiss this awful event as being down to race or culture is really just another way of minimising. 'It's a tiny minority of men, it won't happen to me/my daughter.' 'It's a problem in that community. The naice white men in my naice area wouldn't do that.'

I was raped aged 17 by a white man in Leamington Spa. A friend was raped as a teenager in Bury St Edmunds. It isn't confined to poor people and immigrants. It's completely pervasive.

If any other social group (for instance Muslims) committed as many violent acts against another group as men do against women, we'd be calling it terrorism.

IamImportantToo · 13/10/2017 22:50

everyone is breeding boys that with only a few drinks in them (or none at all even) will slap a girls arse in a bar. Or far worse. 'Nice' 'normal' guys. Trained to assault and think nothing of it.

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Karate kitten That is what you accused every parent of boy of doing. Most of us do not breed and bring up boys like that

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 13/10/2017 22:55

Hopefully with all the publicity, these animals will be caught, brought to trail, shamed and imprisoned for a very long time.

NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 23:07

Pigface1 Flowers

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Slimthistime · 13/10/2017 23:37

Woods, but that's part of the rage
Sentences for these crimes are pathetic.

KarateKitten · 13/10/2017 23:42

Iam, the bit I said before that was very important. About aggression in 5yr old boys towards girls at school. Just children but I feel like it does start that early. I meant everyone as in society. We don't even know we're doing it half the time. You took it very personally but maybe my point is worth stopping and thinking about, even if you feel it doesn't apply to your boys. Not least because you are not the only influence on your sons upbringing unfortunately.

NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 23:58

I am fed up of this being swept under the carpet. This is so many men. Not all men. Too many women.

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LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 14/10/2017 00:07

Oh thank fuck it's back up!

Any clarification as to why it was suspended though @MNHQ?
It'd be nice to know.

Pigface1

I really can see why people want to believe it's a 'tiny minority of men', because the truth is terrifying to contemplate - especially if you have a daughter. But it isn't a tiny minority of men. It's endemic. It's happening in every town and city, every single night. And to dismiss this awful event as being down to race or culture is really just another way of minimising. 'It's a tiny minority of men, it won't happen to me/my daughter.' 'It's a problem in that community. The naice white men in my naice area wouldn't do that.

This is bang on.

NoLoveofMine · 14/10/2017 00:27

Still so enraged by this.

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Slimthistime · 14/10/2017 00:40

A friend in India once said to me they should put men on a curfew. That woukd be great.

Didn't Sweden cancel a music festival because of assaults? They should have run it and made it women attendees and staff only.

NoLoveofMine · 14/10/2017 00:41

We need a gang like these wonderful Indian feminists: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulabi_Gang

My best friend's parents are from India. Her mum is still in touch with many feminists in India and volunteers for a WOC feminist group in London created by Indian immigrants some years ago.

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Slimthistime · 14/10/2017 00:42

Stop "But Tower hamlets is full of poverty and anger right now."

No relevant here at all. I know it's true but it's got naff all to do with sexual assault.

NoLoveofMine · 14/10/2017 00:46

Especially since two 15 year old girls were sexually assaulted by men in Richmond upon Thames borough within a few months earlier in the year.

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Zeelove · 14/10/2017 01:18

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Slimthistime · 14/10/2017 01:27

Zee, were there witnesses and camera footage? That's quite some scam. eyeroll

NoLoveofMine · 14/10/2017 01:29

Never happened.

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CheerfulYank · 14/10/2017 01:31

How do we raise our boys then? I've got two of them. I'm seriously asking. I don't know what I'm doing.

Zeelove · 14/10/2017 01:35

I don't know. I just know there was a huge fuss about it at the time , and recently I read s newspaper article saying that the woman had been charged for it

NoLoveofMine · 14/10/2017 01:37

Go away Zeelove. Firstly no she hasn't and secondly bringing that up in this thread is just hideous.

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Slimthistime · 14/10/2017 01:38

Zee, what do you feel you have contributed to the thread with your posts?

Zeelove · 14/10/2017 01:39

God I'm sorry I hit a nerve. I haven't read the whole thread, sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick. And she did. I'd find the article but I can't be arsed.

NoLoveofMine · 14/10/2017 01:41

There isn't one. Go away.

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Slimthistime · 14/10/2017 01:42

You are part of the problem Zee and I bet you can't be arsed to even think why I'm saying that.

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