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17 year old girl walking home sexually assaulted by multiple, unconnected men

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NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 10:15

An absolutely horrendous case in which a 17 year old girl trying to get home on a night out was subject to multiple serious sexual assaults it seems by men completely unconnected to one another. What does this say about society, that different men in a small geographical location within the space of an hour all had such contempt for women and girls they chose to commit these abhorrent attacks on her? It's hideous. I don't usually start threads in this section of the board but I feel so enraged by these attacks and feel more should be aware of this misogyny.

[http://news.met.police.uk/news/appeal-after-woman-sexually-assaulted-by-multiple-suspects-following-night-out-267602]

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LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 13/10/2017 10:46

I also fear the chances of these abhorrent men being caught are extremely low

Yup.

And even if they are caught, the chances of being convicted of it are teeny tiny, then even if they are charged bet they don't get more than a fucking slap on the wrist.

ItsNiceItsDifferentItsUnusual · 13/10/2017 10:46

I just read this and felt ill. I still don’t understand why so many men want to hurt women. It’s the sheer spur of the moment too. They see a woman, and decide then and there to sexually assault her. Purely because they can.

Like other posters I’m honestly getting to the point where I’m feeling the ‘good’ men are the exception. I very much hope that’s not true.

Freezingwinter · 13/10/2017 10:47

It makes me scared. What sort of society will we be living in in A year, 5 years, 10 years
?

PerfectPenquins · 13/10/2017 10:48

Im not sure it is a minority of men either, I do think people assume a stereotype of predatory man but thinking back to an ex in my late teens and our friends the way they spoke of women was often sickening. All respectable young men from good families so not the obvious predator. I do think a couple of them had the capacity to assault someone especially with the courage of alcohol or drugs. Their families would never believe them capable though. Things like taking photos on their mobiles of hot girls zooming in on chests, disgusting sayings such as best she likes it rough or bash her back doors in In my early 20`s they calmed a little as they got partners (how??) but id never have anything to do with them and to my knowledge they never did assault anyone but its horrible to think the potential is there.

BertrandRussell · 13/10/2017 10:48

"Thats cxertainly not how I'm bringing up my boys what a load of crap"

Not how I'm bringing mine up either. Shame there aren't more of us..

NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 10:49

In a way I'm not surprised and that makes me sad too.

I feel the same. I feel enraged and sick by it though and can't stop thinking about how she must feel and how so many have such disdain for women and girls.

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NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 10:49

In a way I'm not surprised and that makes me sad too.

I feel the same. I feel enraged and sick by it though and can't stop thinking about how she must feel and how so many have such disdain for women and girls.

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KarateKitten · 13/10/2017 10:49

I think the amount of men that will violently rape a strange young woman is the minority but I think the majority of men are capable of lower levels of that scale that all feed into women being inferior pieces of meat.

Bluesapp, unfortunately it's not just what you carefully try to teach your boys at home. I think many families are very successful at teaching their sons that their sisters, mothers and closely connected female friends are to be treated with respect but the media, school friends, general mysogony in society does a great job of stripping down that respect to noting in relation to 'other' females. Plenty of teen lads are lovely at home but then go to Aya Napa full of jokes about girls as pieces of pussy and notches on the bed.

NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 10:50

They see a woman, and decide then and there to sexually assault her. Purely because they can.

Indeed, because they can and because to them women and girls aren't equal humans, we exist for their sexual gratification, they have such disregard and contempt for us that our thoughts, feelings, lives don't matter, just the sexual thrill they can get from attacking us. Not just one man here and there (which would be bad enough) but, as evidenced by this case, many of them.

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PerfectPenquins · 13/10/2017 10:50

However saying that, my dad and uncles and my younger brother and his friends are very and rightfully respectful and my dad in his 20`s managed to stop a potential attack scared the guy off and took the poor woman home to her mum. In this day and age id advise calling the police rather than taking home but still.

WomblingThree · 13/10/2017 10:51

Are you just being hyperbolic for effect or do you all really think that it’s a majority of men? I find that incredibly saddening.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 13/10/2017 10:51

I can believe it's a small minority of men that do it, but we can't avoid the fact that a large majority of men tolerate it.
Most of the men in our lives have never done anything, either in terms of political activism or stepping in and putting themselves at risk, to prevent violence against women.

NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 10:52

PerfectPenquins very good point and sadly that doesn't surprise me. The way I've heard and heard of many boys my age (and younger) speaking of girls and women is horrendous. Rape jokes, rampant misogyny, "rating" girls on body parts. Also I have friends who've been harassed on the street by young teenage boys including some using violently misogynist language.

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NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 10:53

Are you just being hyperbolic for effect or do you all really think that it’s a majority of men? I find that incredibly saddening.

It's clearly a lot of men. Not only because of the number of attacks but because of those such as this, where separate men all chose to attack a vulnerable girl.

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/10/2017 10:53

"I do believe its a small minority of men though"

Even a small minority or dirty specimens is too many.
There shouldn't be any

I'm beyond sickened. Words fail me and believe me that is a very rare occurrence

BertrandRussell · 13/10/2017 10:55

"Are you just being hyperbolic for effect or do you all really think that it’s a majority of men? I find that incredibly saddening"

I don't think a majority of men would violently assault somebody, no.

I do think a majority of men still think of women as "lesser".

NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 10:55

Quite Lana. That this happened is bad enough but given the poor CCTV and the fact the police clearly have no leads I fear they won't ever be caught and on top of all she suffered the girl will have to live knowing all the men who chose to do this to her are out there.

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KarateKitten · 13/10/2017 10:55

I sit surrounded by decent men who let teeny little bits of mysogony deep through in their every day conversations.

Anyone who thinks their well known men think women are equal, really really have a think about that. You may find that they think specific women are equal but there is an underlying deeply conditioned, usually unvoiced sense that women are weaker and lower than men in this world. Even among women.

Sallystyle · 13/10/2017 10:56

Are you just being hyperbolic for effect or do you all really think that it’s a majority of men? I find that incredibly saddening.

I don't think the majority of men are out there attacking women walking down the street, no.

I think the amount of men that will violently rape a strange young woman is the minority but I think the majority of men are capable of lower levels of that scale that all feed into women being inferior pieces of meat.

This is a better way of putting it.

MargaretTwatyer · 13/10/2017 10:56

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NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 10:57

Strange. Those descriptions don't seem very complete. Important information seems to be missing. Shurely shome mishtake.

Hmm
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DownstairsMixUp · 13/10/2017 10:59

Ok what is happened here is certainly not the majority of men. Most of us know our brothers, fathers and husbands well enough to know they wouldn’t sexually assault someone but on the slightly lesser side of things how many of us know men that use degrading comments about women? I can’t count the amount of times I’ve gone to bars and over heard men rating women or looks or daring one another to “pull a pig” my friends boyfriend likes to “joke” about women drivers. There are plenty of men that still see women beneath them and that is a problem.

gluteustothemaximus · 13/10/2017 10:59

It’s not a minority. Misogyny exists everywhere. Not all men rape, as Emma Thompson said, do all men have to be as bad as Harvey Wankstain for it to count? Do all men have to be so prolific, or just one man doing it to one woman once, that’s enough.

It exists all over. Women die every week at the hands of men. And women, like me, have an abundance of stories that we keep silent over (unless sharing anonymously on an Internet forum).

Men get away with it every single day.

M4Dad · 13/10/2017 11:01

I do think it's a small minority of men though

There's something I wish I could say but I can't because I will be banned. There is a reason a lot of women are being attacked in this country and it's starting you straight in the face.

NoLoveofMine · 13/10/2017 11:03

Very well put DownstairsMixUp and gluteustothemaximus.

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