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Is he Right, Left, or is He Nothing at All? Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 17/09/2017 01:20

My bet is on nothing.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3024189-In-the-dim-corner-we-have-Trump-In-the-dictator-corner-we-have-Kim-Or-is-that-mixed-up

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lionheart · 27/09/2017 21:59

I'm not sure it is a good idea for Trump to visit Puerto Rico. Shock

cozietoesie · 27/09/2017 22:00

Me neither.

cozietoesie · 27/09/2017 22:02

It was McCain who handed the full report to Comey? Wink

lionheart · 27/09/2017 22:40

Yep. Smile

cozietoesie · 27/09/2017 22:51

Hooey Zooey. Smile

badbadhusky · 27/09/2017 23:00

I love how McCain is making his last months really count. The man is taking no prisoners. Now we know the cause, I can overlook his erratic Senate Intelligence Committee line of questioning earlier this year

InigoTaran · 28/09/2017 00:10

After reading Seth's threads I'm starting to think we need to be really careful to not get distracted with all the chaos and outrage T keeps starting, they are DISTRACTIONS, designed to stop us focussing on what's really going on right now, we need to think strategically but instead he's just a puppet master, pulling our threads all over the place! Does anyone know what I'm trying to say...?

PerkingFaintly · 28/09/2017 00:15

I agree completely that 45's method is distraction.

He has a long history of creating dissent and fights amid those around him, so that he can sit in the middle of the chaos and all gifts and favour must descend directly from him.

cozietoesie · 28/09/2017 00:25

He surely doesn't mind chaos. I doubt that Mr M and his people are distracted though? Smile

lionheart · 28/09/2017 00:48

Nope. Smile

It is hard to answer questions that are hard.

thinkprogress.org/trump-sudan-travel-ban-5e1679e56a93/

cozietoesie · 28/09/2017 00:52

....A word salad for the ages....

They have a way with a phrase. Wink

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/09/2017 02:40

Renato Mariotti
Renato Mariotti @renato_mariotti
Good news: It looks like the Senate Judiciary Committee supports bipartisan legislation to protect Mueller.

Bills to Protect Mueller Are Bipartisan, but the Path Forward Is Uncertain

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/us/politics/mueller-russia-senate-judiciary-committee.html?referer=t.co/FYvxVEUxo1?amp=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/us/politics/mueller-russia-senate-judiciary-committee.html?referer=t.co/FYvxVEUxo1?amp=1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/09/2017 02:43

Kyle Griffin
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
NYT: There's evidence Twitter may have been used more extensively than Facebook in the Russian influence campaign.

Twitter, With Accounts Linked to Russia, to Face Congress Over Role in Election

mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/technology/twitter-russia-election.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/09/2017 02:44

Molly McKew @MollyMcKew
Word that keeps being used in these articles on Russian info ops: sophistication.
Don't let anyone downplay this

Exclusive: Russians Impersonated Real American Muslims to Stir Chaos on Facebook and Instagram

www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-russians-impersonated-real-american-muslims-to-stir-chaos-on-facebook-and-instagram

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/09/2017 02:55

Conversation
The Hill
The Hill @thehill
JUST IN: Trump EPA head used private and military planes for government travel: hill.cm/yMOjWqI

As well as protecting the environment by taking private planes everywhere, the head of the EPA has been working really hard to take his role seriously and safeguard the future of the planet

Kyle Griffin
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
EPA chief Pruitt is threatening to stop funding the DOJ's work enforcing antipollution laws.

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/us/politics/scott-pruitt-epa-justice-department-funding.html?referer=t.co/YRovGtZUJL?amp=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/us/politics/scott-pruitt-epa-justice-department-funding.html?referer=t.co/YRovGtZUJL?amp=1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/09/2017 02:57

Raw Story
Raw Story @RawStory
WATCH: Trump’s mob ties and ‘multibillion dollar fraud’ revealed in Dutch documentary sequel

www.rawstory.com/2017/09/watch-trumps-mob-ties-and-multibillion-dollar-fraud-revealed-in-dutch-documentary-sequel/amp/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/09/2017 03:04

Ed O'Keefe
Ed O'Keefe @edatpost
SCOOP: White House is restricting lawmakers from visiting Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, aides say

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/powerpost/wp/2017/09/27/white-house-restricting-lawmakers-from-visiting-puerto-rico-u-s-virgin-islands-aides-say/

Caroline O.
Caroline O. @RVAwonk
Trump doesn't want Puerto Rico turn into his presidency's Hurricane Katrina... so he's stopping people from witnessing the devastation.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/09/2017 06:56

Maggie Haberman Retweeted
Josh Dawsey
Josh Dawsey @jdawsey1
Bannon will try and compete in at least seven states and take on McConnell. Will he be friend or foe to Trump?: trib.al/LTlM4w0

CaveMum · 28/09/2017 07:47

Came on to mention the "Sudan question" but see lionheart beat me to it Grin

As has been said about it on Twitter, it's a prime example of why journalists NEED to keep asking him specific policy questions in order to expose him.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/09/2017 07:54

It’s not just trump who’s arbitrarily making it up as he goes along with the travel ban

Dionne Searcey @dionnesearcey
State Department and Pentagon officials all opposed Trump's travel ban on Chad. Stephen Miller said do it anyway

Chad’s Inclusion in Travel Ban Could Jeopardize American Interests, Officials Say

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/world/africa/chad-travel-ban-american-interests.html?smid=tw-share&referer=t.co/RoKEuSZZa7?amp=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/world/africa/chad-travel-ban-american-interests.html?smid=tw-share&referer=t.co/RoKEuSZZa7?amp=1

PerkingFaintly · 28/09/2017 10:59

If true, Pain, that Daily Beast story about Russian Facebook groups and ads pretending to be by US Muslims is hugely important.

Also completely unsurprising, given we know creating and amplifying division is a Russian tactic.

www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-russians-impersonated-real-american-muslims-to-stir-chaos-on-facebook-and-instagram

The account was also subtler than several of the others The Daily Beast and other news outlets have now identified as Russian-linked Facebook accounts. Much of the content on the account was apolitical, evincing positive portrayals of Islam and Muslims and debunking some of the very Islamophobic myths Russia was simultaneously deploying through other accounts. That approach might have helped the account win its 268,000 Facebook followers. But at strategic moments, those followers were treated to a sharp detour into fake news.

I've actually seen some of their "Clinton/Obama invented ISIS" talking points posted on MN.

lionheart · 28/09/2017 11:26

Trump tactics.

www.politico.com/story/2017/09/27/trump-joe-donnelly-tax-reform-243224

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/09/2017 11:28

You might find this interesting perking

Adam Khan @Khanoisseur
Replying to @Khanoisseur
New paper on Russian influence ops, exploitation of free and open societies and civic/media/historical illiteracy

Also this

Vets Against Trump @commondefense
That awkward moment when the Russian government forgets to turn off location services on their disinformation network Twitter accounts

Grin

I’m sure it has reached MN - there are, or at least were, persistent offenders that disappeared post elections and referendum.

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Is he Right, Left, or is He Nothing at All? Trump thread continued.
Is he Right, Left, or is He Nothing at All? Trump thread continued.