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To think friend is being very snobbish towards me?

217 replies

ACommonPerson · 16/09/2017 13:05

My friend lives on a private housing estate. It started off 18 years ago as a few small new houses bordering the council estate but popularity rocketed and the estate became huge. Thousands of new homes built, massive homes with triple driveways, balconys etc . It became so big that the city boundary has been extended to fit it in and they got their own shops, a salon, beauty parlour, butchers and deli etc as well as their own health centre and primary school which again was so popular, it's had to be extended. They have their own neighbourhood committee and now refer to themselves as a village. The neighbourhood that it became is now the most affluent area in the city.

It still neighbours the council estate however and I live on the border (council estate side).

Anyway, looking for primary school for DS next year and I said to friend that I intend to get him in the "village" school if I can as it has an excellent reputation. She looked shocked and said "you can't!". I asked why and she said that the school is there to serve the village and is already over subscribed. I said I realised it was over subscribed but it's a comp school and therefore is not just there to serve certain houses! I'm going to try my luck and if he gets in, brilliant.

She was almost angry and said she doesn't agree with people from outside the "village" trying to get into the school as it's hard enough for the people within it. We went back and forth on it and then she came quite defensive and said "to be blunt, the school is good for a reason, and that's because it doesn't have to take in kids from the council estates. She justified this by saving "there is a reason you don't want to take your DS to your catchment school and I'm betting it's because you know it's full of council estate kids and will be rough as hell for that reason.

I became a bit upset and said my DS had just as much right to a good education as her kids. She softened up slightly and said she agreed with me and she hopes he does get in but part of the reason people pay the high prices for these houses is for the school and it doesn't seem justified that the school will become swamped with council estate kids so whilst she hopes my DS gets in, she hopes no other kids get in off the estate.

I'm fuming! Name changes as she'll probably recognise this but I don't care!! Snobbery or does she have a point? Should the rest of us suck it up with shit schools because we haven't paid to live on the private estate?

OP posts:
Ellisandra · 16/09/2017 13:59

I agree Dragon, that's why I'm confused about the OP.
Catchment boundaries in my area are not as the crow flies. You can be close to one school but in catchment for another. But once you look within catchment, if it's over subscribed, it's on exact distance.

So is OP in or out of catchment? As the estate school was built to serve the new expanding estate, I presume she's not in catchment.

SoggyTuesday · 16/09/2017 14:00

Have you looked at the catchment area? It might be just the estate if it's that large?

I am just outside of the catchment area for a fantastic school five minutes walk away, literally across the road from us is the boundary, I didn't apply as thought that it would be pointless if outside of catchment and already over subscribed. If your out of the catchment I wouldn't bother applying. However if you are in the catchment then you have as much right as her to apply

user1493413286 · 16/09/2017 14:01

I don't think I'd want her as a friend; she sounds like the kind of person who wants to keep people down so she can enjoy her place of privilege sitting above them

AccrualIntentions · 16/09/2017 14:02

How very nouveau riche

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 16/09/2017 14:06

I can see this being the next topic in their village committee meeting. How to stop the council scum invading our school.

coddiwomple · 16/09/2017 14:07

Your friend has a point. You seem to agree that the school is better because you want your own child there.
Priorities should be for the nearest children, it's unfair to accept kids from further away and leave the local kids stranded. That's why some councils have finally started to stop giving priority to siblings, to prioritise local kids.

The reasons my house was at a premium, was because of the local schools. I could have bought much bigger and cheaper out of catchment, so it's fair my kids got a space in the nearest school - which we chose, because we made the choice to move here. Most people live within this catchment for the same reason, we only have to pay a premium because of the school.

Herechickychicky · 16/09/2017 14:08

Different LAs use catchment or distance in different ways.

It doesn't really matter, put it as your first choice and see if you get lucky.

What matters more is that this woman has shown you her true colours. And what unpleasant colours they are. As someone else said, if you end up with kids in the same school you'll be seeing each other every day for YEARS so I personally wouldn't have a row, but I would keep her at a more polite distance now.

JonSnowsWife · 16/09/2017 14:08

I became a bit upset and said my DS had just as much right to a good education as her kids

He does indeed. Many of the children in DCs school come from neighbouring council estates. Learn to let it wash off you OP because it won't be the last time you'll hear it, and not just from her either.

greendale17 · 16/09/2017 14:09

"Well, if I'd paid a massive house price premium to get my child into a school I liked, and then people who lived further away got priority over my child I'd be pretty pissed off".

^This

JonSnowsWife · 16/09/2017 14:10

Do you think your friend has a point OP? I'm wondering because you said DS has a right to a good education as much as her kid (which he does) but it insinuates that you know the ones nearer to you may be a bit, well, shit.

It depends on how tough the school is on catchment area boundaries I'd think.

Shockers · 16/09/2017 14:11

I immediately thought Buckshaw too!

pigsDOfly · 16/09/2017 14:13

Children outside the catchment area won't get in though Rookiemere. OP's friend is saying it's difficult enough for the children in the village to get places as it is as the school is over subscribed. But if people in the council estate come within the catchment area then they are just as entitled to apply for, and send their children to the school.

OP's friend sound horrible and clearly thinks she superior to most lesser mortals i.e. people in council houses, because she can afford a pricey house. How lovely.

Not sure I'd want my child going to that school if all the parents are like that, I certainly wouldn't want her as a friend.

Ilovetolurk · 16/09/2017 14:18

She's no friend of yours if she does not want the best for your child given it does not affect her in any way

That's all really

NoSquirrels · 16/09/2017 14:19

The only surprising thing about this is that she admitted it out loud.

It is snobby, but she's right that people like to protect their position and pay a premium for it.

Hope your DC gets in, OP.

BabsGanoush · 16/09/2017 14:21

I think part of her obnoxiousness is if your child also attends the same school she will be unable to be superior to you for the next few years as well.

Her child gets a better education/friends/clubs/opportunities/qualifications........

JonSnowsWife · 16/09/2017 14:22

Children outside the catchment area won't get in though Rookiemere.

Not necessarily. DSs school is very hard to get in to. We are outside the catchment area. He got offered a place as he was first on the waiting list when one became available. We'd been waiting 3 years.

Mittens1969 · 16/09/2017 14:22

There's no harm in applying; you put 5 schools on the application form and put that one at the top. It's mainly based on catchment area, but yes fostered kids get priority and adopted too (this was a help to us), but also on siblings being in the school.

It's not down to you or your friend who gets into the school.

SonicBoomBoom · 16/09/2017 14:25

I assume you're in Scotland?

If so, I can see her point. If schools have a catchment area, and people outside that catchment apply, then they should only get in if every child who is within the catchment also gets in first.

JonSnowsWife · 16/09/2017 14:28

OP's friend sound horrible and clearly thinks she superior to most lesser mortals i.e. people in council houses, because she can afford a pricey house. How lovely.

This is why I support schools who don't stick rigidly to the catchment areas. My Mum was/is a single parent, and disabled, her numerous health problems meant she was unable to work, many of the children from my primary went to the good school six miles away. Rather than the one nearest which has since closed it was that dreadful. She'd never have been able to afford to buy a house or rent privately, and you've got a higher chance or winning the lottery jackpot than you have of ever being offered a council house there. Social mobility 'innit'?

maudeismyfavouritepony · 16/09/2017 14:29

She is a snob.

You are well within rights to apply and if under their criteria you get in, fair enough and NONE OF HER BLOODY BUSINESS!

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 16/09/2017 14:30

I thought that planning permission for large housing estates is rarely granted unless there is a proportion of social housing within in it?
My point being that there are probably council tenants within this "village" anyway.

TatianaLarina · 16/09/2017 14:30

The people who pay a premium for houses near a good school are paying for education just not directly.

I'd suggest if she wants to be sure to keep the rabble out she pays directly for private school.

MrLovebucket · 16/09/2017 14:37

YABU

This is a local school, for local people.

To think friend is being very snobbish towards me?
Mummyoflittledragon · 16/09/2017 14:39

I imagine she isn't in catchment and that the children on the actual housing estate sorry, village get priority Ellisandra.

I can see this being the next topic in their village committee meeting. How to stop the council scum invading our village. Grin

guestofclanmackenzie · 16/09/2017 14:42

Are you in the North West? Sounds like Buckshaw VIllage!