Who is BU? DD slept on the floor all holiday.

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We have just come back from a holiday to New York. It was amazing and I'm so pleased we went. We are not the richest family by any means, I have been saving for this for years. We booked a hotel room that has 2 double beds. I really couldn't afford another room. It was me, DH and 2 DDs. They are 18 and 20. 1 is at sixth form (yes, I know it's exam period but it was half term and she was more than happy to go, she is also set to do well, didn't want anyone moaning at me about that!) the other is at uni. I paid for both of them for everything. I didn't really expect not to.

DD1 was apparently very difficult to sleep with - constantly stealing all the cover (so she got another cover from reception after the first night) and then she kept sleeping very closely to her, etc. etc. so DD2 ended up moving on to the floor. DD2's argument was that DD1 should have gone on the floor as she was the one being difficult, DD1 says no as DD2 was the one having a problem with it.

DD2 says it would have been nice to have booked a 2nd room and that when she was 16, I wouldn't have let DD sleep on the floor (when DD1 was 18). I say that they're both adults and quite lucky to get a full holiday paid! DD2 says that DD1 got holidays paid for at her age. She just comes across very ungrateful! Who is in the right!?

Meh, I think what they are both telling you is that they have outgrown family holidays. I'd let them know and leave it at that.

This.

My idea of a holiday is not sharing a room with DS! If I can't afford separate room I wouldn't go.

user NYC hotel rooms are £200+ per night! It's not like the OP was being tight. DDs knew that they would have to share before they agreed to go.

I can't see what DD1 has done wrong? She was happy to share, so why should she have to sleep on the floor why should . DD2 was being a fuss pot and a martyr

Amen to this.

My younger sister had form for this. Our bedrooms were next to each other and because I was two years older, I'd still be awake whilst she had gone to bed an hour or so beforehand. I'd listen to CDs very quietly with the door shut. Every night she'd start banging on the floor to get my mum and dad to 'tell me turn the music off.' roughly 60% of the time I didn't have music on at all, she just enjoyed creating a drama and attempting to paint me as being unreasonable.

Although to be fair, she was about 12 at the time, unlike this pampered Princes who is still trying it on into adulthood.

They just need to sort their own holidays out in future.

They sound ungrateful and ungracious, yet another reason why teenage/young adult children should just make their own holiday arrangements and pay for the holiday.

I wouldn't have dreamed of holidaying with my parents after the age of 14, I think your DDs are being spiteful and unkind to complain - they must have known about the sleeping arrangements when you discussed booking the holiday, at that stage they should have politely declined the offer of a free holiday.

I probably would have got them a twin room tbh. Many hotels do 50% off on a second room and you can get two much cheaper rooms rather than the sort with two beds in. It's a bit unfair asking them to share. My dd is eleven but we're now starting to book her a separate room.

Absolutely no where to buy a bed or mattress or whatever.

Ok so I googled "camping shop new york and loads came up...

FFS, people are so desperate to prove the OP wrong/unreasonable/inadequate they're actually spending time googling for camping shops in New York?

I agree with this: they must have known about the sleeping arrangements when you discussed booking the holiday, at that stage they should have politely declined the offer of a free holiday.

Most US people I know would find this bizarre. Students are always sharing 4 (or even more) to a room. Sometimes even with total strangers. We've done this with 5 of us (19, 17 and 12; 2 girls and 1 boy) in a room most of the time while touring in the US. Its not ideal but better than not going.

YADNBU OP your dd is being ungrateful. It won't hurt her to sleep on the floor for a few nights fgs and you sound lovely for giving them such a fab NEW YORK holiday I mean this is such a brilliant place to go they are s damn lucky ,perhaps you need to leave the girls sort out their own hols from now on

polly a room in NY is £200 minimum, unless you want a flea pit. And they definitely don't offer a 50% discount on a second room.

For a week that's £1400........ would you still book one for your 11 year old?

Nowhere to buy an air bed? Really? You could have ordered one on Amazon and had it delivered to the hotel next day. And yes, they have them at Macy's although they'd have been pricier than Target or WallyWorld.

My sons always alternated bed/floor or bed/sofa when we were on holiday as they wouldn't sleep in the same bed 'on principle'. And I can guaran-damn-tee you that they'd do it now if I told them to. They're 32 and 27.

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Yup :-) Took less time than it did to type this actually!

It's crap when you've spent a lot of money on something and it ends in arguments like this. Just go with your husband next time and leave the girls to themselves. They're old enough to have figured something out for themselves.

Did she suffer any lasting injuries because of sleeping on the floor? Was she visited by the spirits of the people who died in the hotel? Did a poltergeist lift her and smashed her against the wall?
If the answer is no, then your completely NBU. They need to grow-up mentally and book their own rooms. You were really great taking them to New York and they should be grateful instead of being moany spoilt brats.

Btw, I couldn't share my room with my Mum. She snores somewhat awful.

Just go with your husband next time and leave the girls to themselves.

This. Or they pay their own way.

Having said that, if you ever decide to take them anywhere, you can make sure you book rooms with twin beds. Easier to sort out. :)

*Mummytime" what does what most US students do have to do with anything? Do US students habitually share beds, or just rooms? The poor in the UK used to have no choice but to share a bed with the entire family, there are people who live in shop doorways... All of that is shit but doesn't mean a sleep free holiday or sharing a bed with a non partner who invades your space is pleasant.

If they knew the deal it's there own problem not down to the OP to shell out more cash she doesn't have, but that doesn't mean the realities of the holiday sleeping arrangements weren't a nasty surprise in practice (if you've never shared a room/ bed with a specific individual as an adult you might assume it'll be manageable until you try it, and find you can't sleep because they are an inconsiderate sleeper) or that ruined sleep doesn't ruin a holiday.

My DDs are the same age, aside from the point that DD2 would no more have gone to NY just before her A levels than cut off her arm, there is no way they would share a bed. They haven't ever successfully, when they were small, DH and I had 1 each when in the USA, when they got older it was either an extra rollaway or more likely a suite/2 rooms. We still pay for both our DC to come on family holidays too and neither have part time jobs.

I am not sure who would win the bed and who the floor in bed wars here, DD1 is stubborn and DD2 is unreasonable. It is bad enough now when they have to share a room.

I also understand not being able to make DD1 be more reasonable, did you not realise that sharing a bed would be an issue before you went?

I am sure if there was floor space you could have got an inflatable bed in Manhattan, or asked the hotel for a rollaway

You KNOW the answer to this, yourself, but you are looking for excuses. What spooled, entitled girls have you brought up, when you have taken them on such am amazing holiday, and all they can whine about is their sleeping arrangements. Make it clear to them, that this is the last TIME. Be very, very careful, not to load any blame more heavily on one or the other. Both behaved like spoiled brats who absolutely did not deserve such a lovely holiday. Go and enjoy a lovely holiday next year with your partner, just the two of you. Let those selfish spoiled madams sort themselves out.

Students I know in the Us happily share beds when going to conferences etc. A standard hotel room has 2 Queen beds and can sleep 4, unless rich (and sometimes even then) they will crowd it with as many people as possible and split the cost.
My DC prefer their own beds, rooms etc. But would share if it meant a free holiday. (Admittedly we wouldn't be going the half-term of exams, unless they were bringing their books - but they'd still rather stay home and study).

Gosh one daughter sounds very selfish to let her sister sleep on the floor, and not even swap alternate nights. She should be ashamed. What a way to treat your sister!!! You're very generous in paying for holiday. Hope you had a nice time anyway x

Students go to conferences?

I backpacked around the world on a very tiny budget as a student and slept on the roof of a youth hostels in Jaipur and in massive dorms rooms in Australia as well as illegal non government approved mattress on the floor dorms above cafes in early 1990s Vietnam, but I never shared a bed with anyone I wasn't in a relationship with at the time... It's a boundary a lot of people aren't happy crossing unless they really have to IMO. I can't see what the fact American students are fine with bed sharing in your experience has to do with the women in the OP, or anyone who isn't fine with it.

Spoilt litrle madams that want their heads knocked together