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To ask if you voted Tory, would you now change your mind?

214 replies

LongLiveTheChief · 10/06/2017 19:26

Hey.

I don't want to start a debate but I am quite worried about DUP being in the position that they are now. I am totally relying on the information from the media with regards to their views etc, but I'm worried about what this holds for us.

I wondered for anyone that voted Tory, now they have a coalition with DUP, would you change your vote?

I'd love to hear everyone's views. I am not politically minded and as I said, a lot of what I read and understand is unfortunately from the media. With 2 little ones, reading the paper online is about as much as I can do!

Please do not come down on me if this is a silly post, I am genuinely interested xx

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Voiceforreason · 10/06/2017 21:04

No because I could never vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I was a young pregnant woman when the IRA carried out their bombing campaigns in London. Routinely being evacuated from work onto the street because of another bomb threat not knowing where to shelter if the blast came. Croaching as best we could in doorways and wondering if my baby would live to be born or if we would be blown to pieces. I could never ever forgive his sympathies for those that terrorised and killed so many both here and in NI.

babybythesea · 10/06/2017 21:10

I keep seeing the 'blame those who voted labour' line.
I didn't vote labour, or tory. I voted Lib Dem. Partly because what they believe is closest to what I believe and partly because they were the candidate who had most chance of outing our Tory MP. Which still wasn't a great chance and didn't happen.

Here's the thing though. I don't want the DUP anywhere near any kind of government. I utterly abhor what they stand for and believe in. But even in hindsight, would I consider voting Tory to ensure this jumping into bed with them didn't happen? No, I don't think I could do that. Because I don't agree with what the Tories stand for either. I don't want Ms May with a strong mandate, because I think her policies on education, on the NHS, on policing, on disability cuts, are horrific. I think there are ways of operating that don't treat people on the bottom rung of the ladder as collateral damage.
I also think if austerity worked, we'd be seeing evidence of this now, and we're not. Why are things getting worse and not better? I don't want to endorse this way of operating in any way, shape or form.

I don't think people who voted anti-Tory have anything to be ashamed of. Voting to stop a set of values you can't stand does not make you responsible for an even worse set coming in. If anything, it makes democracy and the right to protest even more important.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 10/06/2017 21:15

I agree baby

CaptainBrickbeard · 10/06/2017 21:16

Anti, I don't think it will last either which is why I'm interested in responses to these threads. If another GE is called, will people change their vote? Will more people want a Tory majority or will this alliance repulse liberal Tory voters away from the party altogether?

bertsdinner · 10/06/2017 21:16

No, I wouldn't change my vote. I'd rather have this than Labour and the "progressive alliance" in control.

babybythesea · 10/06/2017 21:19

Voiceforreason - genuine question then. I fully get the problem people have with JC sympathising with the IRA. I don't agree with it personally, because he has said repeatedly that talking to people is what brings peace about. It is in fact what brought peace about. I think you can talk without agreeing with someone's actions and doing that brings an end to violence. But I do get why people don't agree with me.
However, if you feel so strongly, what is your take on Teresa May's relationship with the Saudis? We know they are propping up ISIS, who are equally causing terror on the streets. So what's your take on that?
Not trying to be goady but for me, I cannot wrap my head round the fact that people are not happy with JCs actions 2 decades ago but are happy to forgive TM doing the same thing 2 months ago.

babybythesea · 10/06/2017 21:21

And please excuse me if I don't return. I'm just about to eat and then am off to bed with the tail end of flu but I do want to read your response - apologies if I vanish.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 10/06/2017 21:26

captain

I wouldnt change my vote (didnt vote tory) but as we live in a very safe tory seat it wouldnt make any difference

The marginal seats would be incredibly interesting

CaptainBrickbeard · 10/06/2017 21:37

Rufus, I'm in a marginal (for 20 years a bellwether) which went Labour on Thursday by just over 1%. It is also quite strongly Leave. The fighting here in the run up was ferocious! So it gets pretty exciting and I'm fascinated to know how people will go!

Livelovebehappy · 10/06/2017 21:42

Nope. I would still vote Tory.

Dogsmom · 10/06/2017 21:47

I wouldn't change my vote either but do think she made a huge mistake by calling another election, part of me wonders if she wanted Labour in charge, whoever has to deal with Brexit will never be popular as almost half of the people who voted didn't want to leave.
She probably wanted them to deal with the fall out plus get us into huge debt again then in 5 years time say I told you so and come back with a landslide.

We have a large Tory majority in my area and pretty much everyone I know voted for them and would again.

BIWI · 10/06/2017 21:48

How on earth is it the fault of Labour voters that the Tories didn't get enough votes?! That's the most stupid thing to say.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 10/06/2017 21:50

Dumb question captain but was it between labour and conservative?

It must be very exciting Grin

DHLawrence35 · 10/06/2017 21:56

I can't believe the Arlene Foster painting in the mural looks weirder than she does. Grin

MadisonAvenue · 10/06/2017 22:04

To answer the question, I wouldn't change my vote. I'd vote Conservative again. I'm not thrilled with the outcome but I'd rather have this than Corbyn in Number 10.

muckypup73 · 10/06/2017 22:06

babybythesea, I see your point, but to be quite frank the Tory voters dont give a fuck!, they went on about Jc being a terrorist sympathiser, but May sells weapons to Saudis who equip Isis who then kill our people, as if that was not enough, the Dup tried killing innocent children and are linked to another party to shot a man dead in front of his 3 year old child! sorry but they are selfish bastards that dont give a fuck about anyone else but themselves!!!! and thats without the Mrs May cutting 20,000 police officers who may have been able to stop the terror attacks and the Nhs thats going down the fuckin pan!!! grrrrrrrrrrr

CaptainBrickbeard · 10/06/2017 22:08

Rufus , yep - a Brexiteer Tory bloke as incumbent and a Labour woman new to politics as the challenger - it was brilliant!

NoodleNinja · 10/06/2017 22:10

LEM Your friend has obviously been away from NI for far too long because she is 100% wrong.

pearlydewdropsdrop · 10/06/2017 22:10

Nope, I wouldn't.

time4chocolate · 10/06/2017 22:11

So if we had a labour government then JC wouldn't do any deals with the Saudi's? I think you would probably find that if he was to make good on all his manifesto pledges then something would have to give.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 10/06/2017 22:13

I bet it was captain

Grin
Thiscantreallybehappening · 10/06/2017 22:13

Firstly, it is not a coalition it is a "confidence and supply" agreement.

Secondly, I voted Conservative and would again. The thought of comrade Corbyn and his band of merry men running the country fills me with terror.

Thiscantreallybehappening · 10/06/2017 22:24

meant to add - the arrangement is far from ideal and I wish it wasn't needed but the country does need to have a functioning Government and I don' t think another General Election is feasible at the moment especially with the Brexit talks about to start.

beepbeeprichie · 10/06/2017 22:26

Nope. We live in a democracy. I can't say I'm thrilled with the result but ultimately the DUP are a legitimate party in NI and forming a coalition (even if it's on an "as and when" basis) is not illegal. Perhaps JC would have done the same with Sinn Fein if it would have taken him over the line and they'd agreed to attend Parliament.

BandeauSally · 10/06/2017 22:32

the country does need to have a functioning Government

And to hell with what that means for the government of NI as a result?

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