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AIBU to dislike my nephew's behaviour so much that I don't want him in our house?

294 replies

SewingMum46 · 05/06/2017 12:47

I have one brother who lives about three hours drive away and consequently we don't see much of him, his wife or their son (my only nephew). He has a high-pressure and highly paid job in comparison to my husband and I. We have three children, the youngest of whom is a little older than my nephew. Not being particularly well off, we have always tried to do the best we could for our children and encouraged them to work hard and be nice to people. They have all done well at school (eldest is now at a very good university) and although I know everyone who posts this kind of thread says their own children are perfect and well-mannered, they really are mature, polite and well-behaved. They are also quirky, argumentative, clever and funny. We don't have much disposable income and they have often had very simple gifts for birthdays and Christmas - and they've never either asked for much or sulked when they got something that didn't cost very much. They have always been taught to eat and appreciate what is put in front of them at mealtimes and to be polite - basic table manners, being sociable, staying at the table until everyone has finished eating etc.

In contrast, my nephew, who is in about year 4 or 5 at school, has been indulged since he was a baby. Toys at the table at every meal, and released into the wild to run around in restaurants since he was a toddler. He won't eat what is put in front of him and his parents will leave the table as a meal is served to find his favourite toy - meaning we all sit waiting out of politeness while the charade goes on and our food goes cold. Anything he doesn't like gets picked off his plate whilst he pulls a face and puts it on the placemat next to his plate. He barely speaks to us and will turn up his nose at the gifts we have given him for Christmas and birthdays - hardly surprising as his parents have been conditioned not to pass a toyshop without buying him something, and he's frequently taken out to eat whilst for us eating out is a special treat for a big achievement. Much of his diet seems to consist of sweet stuff or junk food surrounded by pools of ketchup, and he just won't eat vegetables.

When he was very young I was told that his parents didn't intend to discipline him "in case it dents his confidence". On their last visit they literally popped in on their way elsewhere and only stayed for about 20 minutes. My nephew, despite being asked more than once, refused to put down the book he was carrying and did not make any effort at all to engage with us. He was asked to say goodbye to us but walked straight past me reading his book and shaking his head. He consented to go back and hug my youngest child but ignored me, my husband and his other cousin. His parents just made disappointed noises but didn't actually tell him off. I was very hurt and felt completely belittled by his behaviour - but more by his parents not telling him it was unacceptable, taking the book off him and telling him to be polite to his family.

I've tried explaining to my brother how upset I am at the way he behaves - he's just plain rude and there is never any comeback from his parents, in fact they often laugh at his behaviour. I'm told that they are "aware of a problem" and "actively trying to find better childcare to sort out his behaviour" - but surely it's not just me that thinks they need to sort it out themselves as his parents and actually act when he behaves badly instead of laughing it off? I have been taking this for almost a decade now - would it be unreasonable of me to say I just don't want to see them until they all act a little more politely towards us?

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Dawnedlightly · 05/06/2017 12:51

His behaviour really doesn't impact on your life, or that of your dcs though does it? Don't go on holiday with them, for sure, but apart from making a big and probably irrevocably damaging statement, what would be the point of banning him?

VictoriaMcdade · 05/06/2017 12:51

He's not going to change, and neither are they.

It's sad, but I would disengage, and enjoy your own family.

BunsBumpBlur · 05/06/2017 12:52

Gawd I really have no idea what your respective incomes have to do with this situation. Children can be indulged or disciplined on all levels of income.

However your statements about the delightful wondrousness and "quirkiness" of your own DCs makes me bring into question your assessment of anyone else's children.

Tolerance is a good thing. It isn't the child's fault if he is insufferable due to his parent's failings. He was only there for a short time, surely you can manage?

Wolfiefan · 05/06/2017 12:53

Either avoid them, ignore the behaviour or say it's your house and your rules.

MissJC · 05/06/2017 12:53

They are building a rod for their own back IMO. Yes they should deal with his behaviour themselves and not try and find better childcare to deal with it. It's that kind of attitude that is building his sense of entitlement in the first place.
Your children sound lovely and I would be happy if my DD grows up to be like that.

They might laugh it off now but in years down the line as he gets older they will regret not having stepped in sooner. And probs blame it on shitty childcare.

BarbarianMum · 05/06/2017 12:54

Well, not unreasonable if you don't mind creating a permanent rift with your brother. Whilst what you describe is rude, it is not as if he is breaking your stuff or hurting you. Can't you just carry on as normal and ignore him? Eg don't let your food get cold, just eat. Doesn't sound like you see much of him anyway so why make a stand about this? Sounds to me like you have feel the need to justify your life choices against your brother's. Why?

HeyRoly · 05/06/2017 12:58

he's frequently taken out to eat whilst for us eating out is a special treat for a big achievement

Good for you Hmm

I think you're trying to suggest that never eating out is somehow more worthy and makes you better people/parents, which is a bit of a stretch if you ask me.

Branleuse · 05/06/2017 12:59

I think you sound really judgemental. He was holding a book, he didnt want to put down. Big deal. He sounds like a bit of a handful, but nothing out of the ordinary or worrying

Spikeyball · 05/06/2017 13:00

Since he is not destroying your house or hurting anyone I would just put up with it, ignoring and not waiting if necessary.
It could be much worse.

Branleuse · 05/06/2017 13:00

I also think sitting there all waiting for them rather than eating and ignoring the issue, is really passive aggressive

BunsBumpBlur · 05/06/2017 13:02

Not eating out is clearly a virtue, HeyRoly. Who knew.

KC225 · 05/06/2017 13:02

Wow. Smug much?

You don't like him, it sounds as if he doesn't like you either. He was there for 20 minutes, he lives 3 hours away and yet felt you were belittled by a child. Most people would have shrugged it off with perhaps a passive aggressive 'maybe next visit, you can actually talk to us' hair ruffle. He had his head in a book, he didn't wreck your house nor hurt your children.

If they know there are issues with their son, perhaps you could given them some positive tips rather than being so negative. .

Kokusai · 05/06/2017 13:04

Doesn't sounds that bad, he was reading and didn't want to make small talk with people who clearly don't like him.

WindwardCircle · 05/06/2017 13:05

You clearly don't like this boy or the way he's being parented, and he does sound like a bit of an indulged brat, but banning him from your house for that fact alone seems overkill. He hasn't done anything awful (unless there's going to be a massive drip feed) feeling belittled because a 9/10 year old hasn't said goodbye to you and your family is just silly, yes it's rude but it's not like he swore at you or deliberately insulted you.

In the end the people who going to suffer from his being indulged are his parents, just be glad your not going to have to deal with him as a teen and ignore his behaviour unless it directly impacts on you or your children.

FoxesSitOnBoxes · 05/06/2017 13:08

I thought you were going to say he comes in and writes on the walls and kicks the cat but you would be being so so so unreasonable to ban a child from your house because he didn't put his book down.
Oh and well done on having such excellent children and living such a modest life

ProseccoBitch · 05/06/2017 13:09

Don't have him in your house then, problem solved.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 05/06/2017 13:10

He sounds horrible; a typical case of people being too busy with their careers and social lives to actually parent, I've seen quite a few of them.

In your position OP I would simply ignore and disengage; they are obviously aware they have messed up. If you are feeing mean spirited you could do a passive aggressive pitying sad face to them about his tragic lack of social skills and how it will impact on his future. Personally I wouldn't bother; I think it is actually quite sad for the poor kid.

BastardBloodAndSand · 05/06/2017 13:10

Maybe he's picked up on the fact you don't like him very much........kids aren't daft. I don't think I'd want to engage with someone who had such a.low opinion of me either.

Urubu · 05/06/2017 13:11

he's frequently taken out to eat whilst for us eating out is a special treat for a big achievement
TBH most people I know frequently eat out just because theu fancy it, not only to celebrate.
Not sure what your point is when you mention the fact that they are wealthy?

bimbobaggins · 05/06/2017 13:12

Wow, child doesn't put down book while visiting his aunt for 20 minutes. I think you sound very judgemental too.

YouWouldntLetItLie · 05/06/2017 13:13

He sounds pretty hard work to be around, but then so do teens who are 'quirky, argumentative, clever and funny'. If you're not directly related to them.

waitforitfdear · 05/06/2017 13:13

Why sit waiting while your good gets cold how wanky.

I agree with Buns you may find your children the best thing since sliced bread, don't we all, but that might not be your brothers view.

They seem to be struggling so why pile on the agony. He doesn't sound that bad to me anyway why should he hug his cousin? His peer group will sort out his basic manners but my guess is he dislikes you and your dh as much as you clearly dislike and judge him and I don't do pleasantries with people I don't like either.

upperlimit · 05/06/2017 13:14

Banning him? For this?

Wow.

He's just a kid. You have no idea how he might change and grow as he becomes an adult. You have no idea of the things that lie ahead in your family's future where you might need to pull together. You have no idea how he might be a person who helps you or your children in the years to come.

And the damage you will do to your relationship with your brother...

Just staggering

ArchieStar · 05/06/2017 13:15

He could be doing a lot worse.

Amaried · 05/06/2017 13:15

Yabu
Way way too much of an exaggeration to fall out with your brother whom you only see a few times a year cause your nephews behaviour annoys you.
If I fell the need to point out bad behaviour to my extended family, no one would be talking to me. Life's too short